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Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: YouAreAsDumbAsYouLook ()
Date: March 04, 2014 12:51PM

Aside from political leanings, what are the differences between George Soros and the Koch Brothers? I can't see any difference in their approach to things. Please enlighten me.

(This should be fun)

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: FollowTheMoney ()
Date: March 04, 2014 01:15PM

The Koch brothers didn't have to buy their citizenship.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 04, 2014 01:18PM

Koch Brothers produce petroleum products etc.

Soros is a currency speculator and hedge funder.

I heard somewhere they are actually friendly or have some strange truce/treaty.


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: SorosVsKoch ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:13PM

Soros has been convicted of insider trading (in France, I believe) and is a fugitive.

Liberals often pronounce Koch as "Cock".

They're all rich beyond belief due to hard work, education, and probably some luck.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kochs Rule ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:19PM

Kochs for America


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: George Soros: cocksucker ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:25PM

Koch brothers: spending their money to put in politicians to loosen government's grip on your throat.

Soros: cocksucking foreigner who wants to destroy America through his various front groups.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Liberal Logic 005 ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:36PM

Koch brothers are some of the biggest philanthropists in the country giving away 100s of millions to hospitals, disease research, art foundations, schools ect.

They also arent even in the top 50 for political donors despite the propaganda liberals put out

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: NeedMoreInfo ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:43PM

I'm sure Soros has donated to some worthy causes, like hospitals and art museums. But aren't they both trying to buy influence?

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kochs for America ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:51PM

Liberal Logic 005 Wrote:
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> Koch brothers are some of the biggest
> philanthropists in the country giving away 100s of
> millions to hospitals, disease research, art
> foundations, schools ect.
>
> They also arent even in the top 50 for political
> donors despite the propaganda liberals put out

Of course they aren't. Now that contributions can be made anonymously, or did you miss that little development?


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kocks for America ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:55PM

Follow the money.


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: UnionThug ()
Date: March 04, 2014 02:57PM

Damn those sneaky capitalists and their donations to politics! We had the monopoly on this and then that stoooopid Supreme Court went and allowed businesses to donate, too. It's just not fair when it's fair!

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: UnionThug ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:00PM

Kocks for America Wrote:
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> Follow the money.

This might be easier to read:

So how big of a threat are the Koch Brothers?
Over the past twenty five years, from 1989 to 2014, Koch Industries has donated $18,083,948 in political contributions to Republicans. While that seems like a large sum, it only ranks them as number 59 on the list of top all-time political donors – behind 18 different unions.

Here is the list of unions that top the Koch Brothers in political donations.
Via Open Secrets:

2.) American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,667,379
4.) National Education Assn $53,594,488
7.) Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $44,478,789
8.) United Auto Workers $41,667,858
9.) Carpenters & Joiners Union $39,260,371
10.) Service Employees International Union $38,395,690
11.) Laborers Union $37,494,010
12.) American Federation of Teachers $36,713,325
13.) Communications Workers of America $36,188,135
14.) Teamsters Union $36,123,209
16.) United Food & Commercial Workers Union $33,756,550
20.) Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $31,313,097
23.) AFL-CIO $30,938,977
32.) National Assn of Letter Carriers $26,106,359
39.) Plumbers & Pipefitters Union $23,886,248
42.) Operating Engineers Union $23,036,848
43.) International Assn of Fire Fighters $22,963,260
46.) Sheet Metal Workers Union $22,372,978
59.) Koch Industries $18,083,948

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:00PM

These Lefto Bags o' Douche have zero consistency.

George Soros is as big a 1%er you can get and makes all of his money from Wall Street, leverage, arbitrage etc.

The Kochs actually produce and sell fucking products.


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: JbUD6 ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:05PM

Koch Industries employees tens of thousands of American workers in over a dozen industries from manufacturing to exploration. Soros employs a few hundred, almost all in liberal think-tanks, lobbying firms a progaganda outlets. The Koch brothers never seized Jewish property in Hungary for the Nazi's. The Koch brothers never considered themselves greater than God. The Koch brothers have never come out and admited that the greatest threat to global stability is the US dollar, which must be collapsed.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kochie ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:07PM

The Koch brothers inherited their money from their father Fred Koch.

Fred Koch made his money setting up Joseph Stalin's oil fields in the 1930s.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:14PM

Currency traders are cool then?


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: xv9Fc ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:23PM

Kochie Wrote:
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> The Koch brothers inherited their money from their
> father Fred Koch.
>
> Fred Koch made his money setting up Joseph
> Stalin's oil fields in the 1930s.


Too bad this thread isn't "Soros vs. Fred Koch" huh? LOL

Neither of the two Koch brothers involved in politics were alive when Fred was over in the USSR. On the other hand, Soros was actively collaborted with the Nazis in Hungary, lying about his Jewish heritage and confiscating Jewish property after they were sent to concentration camps, splitting it with the local authorities, including the Nazis. In a 1998 interview, Soros admitted this and also said he had, "no sense of guilt" of it.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: LEFHC ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:25PM

The Koch brothers never seized Jewish property in Hungary for the Nazi's

BUT your fairfax county supervisors have visited Israel and then swiss banks in one trip

wonder why ?

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1/4 $B dollars is taxes not charity. you are kidding yourself

and the numbers are so fake they appear to be from G.A.O.

"22 23 30 31 34 37 23" why are they all within a power of ten ?

bullshit man

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: SoRosJunkie ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:25PM

Looks like the Koch brothers are the winners of this debate.

It's interesting that Gerry hasn't chimed in because he would hate to throw his support to a Jew.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Soros = Satan ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:27PM

Kochie Wrote:
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> The Koch brothers inherited their money from their
> father Fred Koch.
>
> Fred Koch made his money setting up Joseph
> Stalin's oil fields in the 1930s.


This is a lie. Fred Koch made his money by inventing a better way to refine gasoline. He went to the USSR after the major oil companies drove him out of business and he had to go overseas to restart his company. He hated the commies and had that clear in speeches and in his book. His trip over there only reinforced his views that communism and socialism were antipathetic to human endeavours.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: GerryPanderer2 ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:27PM

SoRosJunkie Wrote:
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> Looks like the Koch brothers are the winners of
> this debate.
>
> It's interesting that Gerry hasn't chimed in
> because he would hate to throw his support to a
> Jew.

Yep, Gerry has been very careful not to touch this thread with a 10-foot pole. He's hiding like a little baby.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kochs for America ()
Date: March 04, 2014 03:55PM

The Kochs make their money off corporate welfare. They are welfare queens, pure and simple. They get handsome oil subsidies, farm subsidies, timber subsidies, you name the subsidy and they pocket it.

Yes their father worked with Stalin, but they do it their way.

You can look all this up, but you can start here

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/03/01/146847/charles-koch-welfare/#

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Hook Nose ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:10PM

LEFHC Wrote:
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> The Koch brothers never seized Jewish property in
> Hungary for the Nazi's
>


You forget that persecuting Jews is a plus to progressive libturds.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: ScaredyCat ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:15PM

Gerry, come out come out wherever you are

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Will Thomas ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:34PM

Kochs for America Wrote:
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> The Kochs make their money off corporate welfare.
> They are welfare queens, pure and simple. They
> get handsome oil subsidies, farm subsidies, timber
> subsidies, you name the subsidy and they pocket
> it.
>
> Yes their father worked with Stalin, but they do
> it their way.
>
> You can look all this up, but you can start here
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/03/01/146847
> /charles-koch-welfare/#


Corporate welfare = tax breaks. If you deduct your mortgage, are you taking welfare moron? thinkprogress is a propaganda outlet funded by George Soros. Fail.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Soro ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:47PM

Kochs for America Wrote:
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> The Kochs make their money off corporate welfare.
> They are welfare queens, pure and simple. They
> get handsome oil subsidies, farm subsidies, timber
> subsidies, you name the subsidy and they pocket
> it.
>
> Yes their father worked with Stalin, but they do
> it their way.
>
> You can look all this up, but you can start here
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/03/01/146847
> /charles-koch-welfare/#


Bawwwwwwhahahahaha. Read this liberal mouthpiece, funded by George Soros and guess what you see. Citing quotes and research from other Soros funded thinktanks and propaganda mouthpieces like SolveClimate and The Global Fund. And a least half a dozen citations of...................you guessed it, thinkgprogress.org to support the slanted propaganda of a thinkprogress.org story. I guess Georgie learned quite a bit working for the Nazi's aside from theft and his self-hating anti-semitism. He learned how to work the Joseph Goebbles propaganda machine as well. Pathetic

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: America's Kochs ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:56PM


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Vexxxed ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:57PM

Kochs for America Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 005 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Koch brothers are some of the biggest
> > philanthropists in the country giving away 100s
> of
> > millions to hospitals, disease research, art
> > foundations, schools ect.
> >
> > They also arent even in the top 50 for
> political
> > donors despite the propaganda liberals put out
>
> Of course they aren't. Now that contributions can
> be made anonymously, or did you miss that little
> development?
>
>


How exactly did any donations made in 2012 work out for them?

Nice pic. I little dated and as it turns out a total fabrication but what would anyone expect from kochbrothersexposed.com?

I wonder who owns that site?

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Coke ()
Date: March 04, 2014 04:58PM

kochbrothersexposed.com

That could be read as Koch Brothers Exposed dot com or Koch Brother Sex Posed dot com.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Soros = Satan ()
Date: March 04, 2014 05:07PM

America's Kochs Wrote:
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> Pathetic indeed. Teatards dismiss all evidence
> that does not support their treasonous agenda.
>
> No doubt the Kochs have been bilking government
> subsidies. Sources about this are plentiful and
> come from across the political spectrum.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/us/22koch.html?p
> agewanted=all&_r=
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1yzzcb/f
> ortune_500_companies_receive_63_billion_in/
>
>
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/
> 2011/03/money_and_politics
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/12/0
> 5/inside-the-koch-empire-how-the-brothers-plan-to-
> reshape-america/5/


Hey dumbass, the NYTimes, reddit and The economist are left-wing rags. Forbes isn't and, if you had taken the time to read the article, it isn't a hit piece. Another fail moron.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Uvula ()
Date: March 04, 2014 05:12PM

America's Kochs Wrote:
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> Pathetic indeed. Teatards dismiss all evidence
> that does not support their treasonous agenda.
>
> No doubt the Kochs have been bilking government
> subsidies. Sources about this are plentiful and
> come from across the political spectrum.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/us/22koch.html?p
> agewanted=all&_r=
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1yzzcb/f
> ortune_500_companies_receive_63_billion_in/
>
>
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/
> 2011/03/money_and_politics
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/12/0
> 5/inside-the-koch-empire-how-the-brothers-plan-to-
> reshape-america/5/


The New York Times and reddit as sources. Snicker.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: GerryPanderer2 ()
Date: March 04, 2014 05:17PM

And still nothing from Gerry? Gerry has no balls at all.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Jare Bear ()
Date: March 04, 2014 05:54PM

The snow is causing mom's basement to flood. He's helping to clean it up.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kochie ()
Date: March 04, 2014 06:11PM

Soros = Satan Wrote:
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> Kochie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Koch brothers inherited their money from
> their
> > father Fred Koch.
> >
> > Fred Koch made his money setting up Joseph
> > Stalin's oil fields in the 1930s.
>
>
> This is a lie. Fred Koch made his money by
> inventing a better way to refine gasoline. He
> went to the USSR after the major oil companies
> drove him out of business and he had to go
> overseas to restart his company. He hated the
> commies and had that clear in speeches and in his
> book. His trip over there only reinforced his
> views that communism and socialism were
> antipathetic to human endeavours.


So it is a lie that the Koch brothers inherited their wealth?

And it is a lie that that their father worked for Stalin?

Fred signed a $5 million contract to set up 15 refineries for Stalin in 1929. Like it or not, that was the beginning of the family fortune.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Debbie Downer Democrat XXX ()
Date: March 04, 2014 06:19PM

xv9Fc Wrote:
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>
> Too bad this thread isn't "Soros vs. Fred Koch"
> huh? LOL
>


Great point. If the Liberals want to derail the topic being discussed here, maybe we could also address the source of the Kennedy fortunes, too.

But, we all have to keep in mind there is no corruption in the Liberal party and all the people spreading Obamacare rumors are all liars ... according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: reasoned one ()
Date: March 04, 2014 06:39PM

Uvula Wrote:
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> America's Kochs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pathetic indeed. Teatards dismiss all evidence
> > that does not support their treasonous agenda.
> >
> > No doubt the Kochs have been bilking government
> > subsidies. Sources about this are plentiful
> and
> > come from across the political spectrum.
> >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/us/22koch.html?p
>
> > agewanted=all&_r=
> >
> >
> http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1yzzcb/f
>
> > ortune_500_companies_receive_63_billion_in/
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/
>
> > 2011/03/money_and_politics
> >
> >
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2012/12/0
>
> >
> 5/inside-the-koch-empire-how-the-brothers-plan-to-
>
> > reshape-america/5/
>
>
> The New York Times and reddit as sources.
> Snicker.


Attacking the messenger, classic fallacious reasoning, and the Hallmark of a true Teatard.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Soros = Satan ()
Date: March 04, 2014 08:38PM

Kochie Wrote:
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> Soros = Satan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Kochie Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Koch brothers inherited their money from
> > their
> > > father Fred Koch.
> > >
> > > Fred Koch made his money setting up Joseph
> > > Stalin's oil fields in the 1930s.
> >
> >
> > This is a lie. Fred Koch made his money by
> > inventing a better way to refine gasoline. He
> > went to the USSR after the major oil companies
> > drove him out of business and he had to go
> > overseas to restart his company. He hated the
> > commies and had that clear in speeches and in
> his
> > book. His trip over there only reinforced his
> > views that communism and socialism were
> > antipathetic to human endeavours.
>
>
> So it is a lie that the Koch brothers inherited
> their wealth?
>
> And it is a lie that that their father worked for
> Stalin?
>
> Fred signed a $5 million contract to set up 15
> refineries for Stalin in 1929. Like it or not,
> that was the beginning of the family fortune.


It's a lie that Fred Koch's money came from his work in the USSR. He got wealthy inventing a better, cheaper and more economical way to refining gasoline from oil. Like it or not, that was the beginning of the family fortune. His company was sued out of business by big oil so he went to Europe, where he had contacts from his days working with the British, to apply his techniques there without US big oil harrassing him.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: mark j ()
Date: March 04, 2014 08:52PM

So many libtards on here...all against the Koch bros...

How about that devil Soros who HATES America and plays money chess to destroy this country ...Obama is a pawn in his game and his checkmate? to destroy this country thru all his Communist organizations...you can tell he is Satan's spawn by his hatred of America...

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Kochie ()
Date: March 04, 2014 09:11PM

Soros = Satan Wrote:
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>
> It's a lie that Fred Koch's money came from his
> work in the USSR. He got wealthy inventing a
> better, cheaper and more economical way to
> refining gasoline from oil. Like it or not, that
> was the beginning of the family fortune. His
> company was sued out of business by big oil so he
> went to Europe, where he had contacts from his
> days working with the British, to apply his
> techniques there without US big oil harrassing
> him.


Fred Koch made 5 mil in 1929 working for Uncle Joe. That is a fact. He may have later regreted it, but in 1929 he had no regrets.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Soros = Satan ()
Date: March 04, 2014 09:19PM

Kochie Wrote:
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> Soros = Satan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > It's a lie that Fred Koch's money came from his
> > work in the USSR. He got wealthy inventing a
> > better, cheaper and more economical way to
> > refining gasoline from oil. Like it or not,
> that
> > was the beginning of the family fortune. His
> > company was sued out of business by big oil so
> he
> > went to Europe, where he had contacts from his
> > days working with the British, to apply his
> > techniques there without US big oil harrassing
> > him.
>
>
> Fred Koch made 5 mil in 1929 working for Uncle
> Joe. That is a fact. He may have later regreted
> it, but in 1929 he had no regrets.


So, he made some of his money working in the USSR before either of his two sons that this thread is about were born? Yes, that is true. If you had written that instead of saying his wealth and fortune came from that work alone, then I wouldn't have had to call you out on it.

And you have no idea what and when we regretted what he did. Based on his own writings, he hated being there while he was there.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Uncle joe Club ()
Date: March 04, 2014 09:20PM

All hail the source of the Koch's wealth. They started with uncle Joe's rubles and moved to US corporate welfare.


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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: UnionWelfare ()
Date: March 05, 2014 05:46AM

Corporations pay income tax. Unions are tax exempt. Which one is on welfare??

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: 3bv6K ()
Date: March 05, 2014 12:26PM

US$ 31 billion (2012)

if he donates millions to a charity thats a drop in the bucket. its like me dropping a 20 in a charity bucket. Come on!

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Tax cheat ()
Date: March 05, 2014 12:30PM

UnionWelfare Wrote:
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> Corporations pay income tax. Unions are tax
> exempt. Which one is on welfare??


Corporations pay income tax? Ha. You must be new.


http://rt.com/usa/low-corporate-tax-rates-275/

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Corporate Tax Attorney ()
Date: March 05, 2014 12:33PM

UnionWelfare Wrote:
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> Corporations pay income tax. Unions are tax
> exempt. Which one is on welfare??

Direct link: http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2014/02/report_finding_massive_corporate_tax_avoidance_released_same_day_as_congressional_plan_to_slash_corp.php#.UxdfnZK9KSM

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: TaxLawyer ()
Date: March 05, 2014 09:02PM

Actually, the guy was correct. Unions are tax exempt. Corporations pay taxes based on current tax law. It would be against a company management's fiscal responsibility to overpay their taxes if they don't have to. Tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is illegal. Go back to school, rookie.

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Re: Soros vs. Koch
Posted by: Puppets ()
Date: March 06, 2014 07:48PM

Soros and the Koch brothers probably laugh as us as they pit us against each other for their personal amusement

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