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Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
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Hans Huckibein
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Date: January 24, 2017 12:33PM
"If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."
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Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
WDmtH
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Date: January 24, 2017 12:39PM
Guy with a stripper name. Pass.
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
Hans Huckibein
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Date: January 24, 2017 12:44PM
WDmtH Wrote:
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> Guy with a stripper name. Pass.
Tocqueville was one of the first pro-American figures in Europe.
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> Guy with a stripper name. Pass.
Tocqueville was one of the first pro-American figures in Europe.
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
BEH
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Date: January 24, 2017 12:48PM
A frog and a tuber, he dressed like a fag.
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
LK4W
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Date: January 24, 2017 01:07PM
one of the most pro-American frenchies beside lafayette perhaps. still a frog though.
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
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Hillary lost because of when she
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Date: January 24, 2017 01:11PM
said;
America is already great, because we're good. Yeah, and the cheaper one costs less.....
America is already great, because we're good. Yeah, and the cheaper one costs less.....
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
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Hillary's follies
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Date: January 24, 2017 01:15PM
That and she was supporting everything Obama already fucked up.
And she was going to raise taxes on the middle class
And support The Iran Nuclear deal
Oh, and she just was the worst candidate.
The Clinton Foundation, which was nothing more than a cover up for pay-to-play.
FUCK, I could go on all.day.long!
And she was going to raise taxes on the middle class
And support The Iran Nuclear deal
Oh, and she just was the worst candidate.
The Clinton Foundation, which was nothing more than a cover up for pay-to-play.
FUCK, I could go on all.day.long!
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
dwvFt
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Date: January 24, 2017 04:05PM
Hans Huckibein Wrote:
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> "If America ceases to be good, America will cease
> to be great."
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> "If America ceases to be good, America will cease
> to be great."
You obviously didn't read the book.
His advice was that in order to keep despotism out of America that american's would have to group together in interest / protest groups to overpower a european style parliamentary rulers who "are always in office".
However Alex was wrong on two counts: #1 electoral college can sustain despotism however it can also remove it. #2 interest groups in USA have proven to be highly in-effective. they are ignored, not reported on by TV. in a POLICE STATE Obama might run - protesters are threatened that "it's the .gov way or you'll be dead tazed and in jail"
Alex did say however that such groups were hard to form. And this is excellingly true - it tends to be only groups are formed in europe at times of massive protest for days to remove absolutely corrupt leaders. which works ... only sometimes.
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
Gp3pT
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Date: January 24, 2017 04:07PM
another thing in the book your ignoring
the hundreds of reason that led to his conclusion that America, despite careful construction against despotism - was still susceptible to despotism
the hundreds of reason that led to his conclusion that America, despite careful construction against despotism - was still susceptible to despotism
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
w4DXY
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Date: January 24, 2017 04:08PM
and me: i'd say govern close to the people. and extract from that: the worst despots in the USA are county leaders - who *currently* have no term limit
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
Hans Huckibein
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Date: January 24, 2017 04:09PM
dwvFt Wrote:
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> Hans Huckibein Wrote:
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> > "If America ceases to be good, America will
> cease
> > to be great."
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I have read it countless times along with Macchiavelli, and Hobbes. For christ's sake why must your font be over 12?
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> Hans Huckibein Wrote:
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> -----
> > "If America ceases to be good, America will
> cease
> > to be great."
>
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> You obviously didn't read the book.
>
> His advice was that in order to keep despotism out
> of America that american's would have to group
> together in interest / protest groups to overpower
> a european style parliamentary rulers who "are
> always in office".
>
> However Alex was wrong on two counts: #1 electoral
> college can sustain despotism however it can also
> remove it. #2 interest groups in USA have proven
> to be highly in-effective. they are ignored, not
> reported on by TV. in a POLICE STATE Obama might
> run - protesters are threatened that "it's the
> .gov way or you'll be dead tazed and in jail"
>
> Alex did say however that such groups were hard to
> form. And this is excellingly true - it tends to
> be only groups are formed in europe at times of
> massive protest for days to remove absolutely
> corrupt leaders. which works ... only sometimes.
>
I have read it countless times along with Macchiavelli, and Hobbes. For christ's sake why must your font be over 12?
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
Posted by:
Tuba lips
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Date: January 25, 2017 12:07AM
BEH Wrote:
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> A frog and a tuber, he dressed like a fag.
European/White clothing thoughout history is some of the beautiful and sophisticated garments ever created.
Now, post clothing that YOUR kind has created.
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> A frog and a tuber, he dressed like a fag.
European/White clothing thoughout history is some of the beautiful and sophisticated garments ever created.
Now, post clothing that YOUR kind has created.
Re: Alexis de Tocqueville's advice to future Americans
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Obviously the French are homos
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Date: January 25, 2017 12:10AM
BEH Wrote:
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> A frog and a tuber, he dressed like a fag.
He was French. Of course he was a fag.
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> A frog and a tuber, he dressed like a fag.
He was French. Of course he was a fag.