Kids are finishing Sophomore and Freshman HS years and we are starting to look around. The quoted costs are absurdly high. Went on a tour of Mary Washington and it was $33,000/yr tuition and room and board - $132,000 for an undergrad degree. Seems absurd to me.

My kids are very good students (all honors and will finish multi variable calc by Jr. year of HS) and test off the charts on standardized tests (that is from mom not me :) so I guess they will be offered merit scholarships.

So my understanding is the 'quoted' rate is pretty much a bogus retail number and that most students pay half of the quoted amount (of tuition at least). We have a family income of over $160k so I doubt we will get any need based relief.

Any advise/information on your own experiences. In advance, yes I know there are many of you that are multi millionaires, drive expensive new cars and to whom 132k is 'not that much money - like buying a nice bottle of wine scale of purchase.'

You'll save the cost of the first two years because of dual enrollment.

President Trump FTW! Wrote:
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> You'll save the cost of the first two years
> because of dual enrollment.


I never went to college and I have done pretty good for myself.

Now I have a special gig where the government sends me tax-payer money just for me being me.
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Just based on the math level I'm going out on a limb and guessing you are white?

And...since we do have lots of virtue signalling coal burners here...are the kids 100% white too?

TransUrban VP Wrote:
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> Just based on the math level I'm going out on a
> limb and guessing you are white?
>
> And...since we do have lots of virtue signalling
> coal burners here...are the kids 100% white too?

my wife and I are 98% Western European (England) with the remaining 2% being Eastern European. My first American born relative was born in Youngstown (now VA) in 1625 and her husband was the Governor of the territory now Virginia in the 1640 time frame.

The kids are ours not adopted so what is your point? I doubt you or many here are whiter or more American than we are but so what? Why are you a racist idiot? When did your inbred relatives arrive here in the USA?

I got 8 year degree and all of medical school covered by us government. They ask me to come here. Pay for all and give me 2000 a month expenses.

I now make over million year. This country wonderful.

what is your point Wrote:
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> TransUrban VP Wrote:
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> > Just based on the math level I'm going out on a
> > limb and guessing you are white?
> >
> > And...since we do have lots of virtue
> signalling
> > coal burners here...are the kids 100% white
> too?
>
> my wife and I are 98% Western European (England)
> with the remaining 2% being Eastern European. My
> first American born relative was born in
> Youngstown (now VA) in 1625 and her husband was
> the Governor of the territory now Virginia in the
> 1640 time frame.
>
> The kids are ours not adopted so what is your
> point? I doubt you or many here are whiter or
> more American than we are but so what? Why are
> you a racist idiot? When did your inbred
> relatives arrive here in the USA?

He may have been hunting around for some "diversity money" for you, but since you're a dick...and a white dick at that. Maybe a dirty nigger will tan up that lilly white neck of your grandchildren. Enjoy that.

Meet us at the WH Wrote:
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> Kids are finishing Sophomore and Freshman HS years
> and we are starting to look around. The quoted
> costs are absurdly high. Went on a tour of Mary
> Washington and it was $33,000/yr tuition and room
> and board - $132,000 for an undergrad degree.
> Seems absurd to me.

> My kids are very good students (all honors and
> will finish multi variable calc by Jr. year of HS)
> and test off the charts on standardized tests
> (that is from mom not me :) so I guess they will
> be offered merit scholarships.

> So my understanding is the 'quoted' rate is pretty
> much a bogus retail number and that most students
> pay half of the quoted amount (of tuition at
> least). We have a family income of over $160k so
> I doubt we will get any need based relief.

You are starting the process late. The time to start trying to figure out how much it will cost for your kid to attend college and how you are going to pay for it is when your kid is born, not when they are in high school. However many of the parents of your kids' peers still haven't started, so good for you.

There is merit based financial assistance offered by schools out there. The purpose of that money is to increase the caliber of students attending the school. The kids who are going to get it are the ones towards the top of the admissions class, not the ones in the middle. If your kids are that smart, they probably want to go to schools filled with students as smart as they are. That is going to be a problem if you are looking for merit based financial assistance. The good news is if your kid is smart enough to get into UVa or W&M, they can probably shop themselves around and find a school that will cost them less to attend. Certain public schools will offer in state tuition rates for top out of state students. Many private schools will offer huge tuition discounts. Most top schools though save their money for need based financial assistance.

Merit based financial assistance from sources other than schools is a different animal.

Good Luck Wrote:
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> Meet us at the WH Wrote:
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> > Kids are finishing Sophomore and Freshman HS
> years
> > and we are starting to look around. The quoted
> > costs are absurdly high. Went on a tour of
> Mary
> > Washington and it was $33,000/yr tuition and
> room
> > and board - $132,000 for an undergrad degree.
> > Seems absurd to me.
>
> > My kids are very good students (all honors and
> > will finish multi variable calc by Jr. year of
> HS)
> > and test off the charts on standardized tests
> > (that is from mom not me :) so I guess they
> will
> > be offered merit scholarships.
>
> > So my understanding is the 'quoted' rate is
> pretty
> > much a bogus retail number and that most
> students
> > pay half of the quoted amount (of tuition at
> > least). We have a family income of over $160k
> so
> > I doubt we will get any need based relief.
>
> You are starting the process late. The time to
> start trying to figure out how much it will cost
> for your kid to attend college and how you are
> going to pay for it is when your kid is born, not
> when they are in high school. However many of the
> parents of your kids' peers still haven't started,
> so good for you.
>
> There is merit based financial assistance offered
> by schools out there. The purpose of that money
> is to increase the caliber of students attending
> the school. The kids who are going to get it are
> the ones towards the top of the admissions class,
> not the ones in the middle. If your kids are that
> smart, they probably want to go to schools filled
> with students as smart as they are. That is going
> to be a problem if you are looking for merit based
> financial assistance. The good news is if your
> kid is smart enough to get into UVa or W&M, they
> can probably shop themselves around and find a
> school that will cost them less to attend.
> Certain public schools will offer in state tuition
> rates for top out of state students. Many private
> schools will offer huge tuition discounts. Most
> top schools though save their money for need based
> financial assistance.
>
> Merit based financial assistance from sources
> other than schools is a different animal.


Thanks for the info. Im sort of guessing they might qualify for full rides to lesser schools like you say. They usually test in the top 1% of standardized tests (again from mom not me). They take the hardest classes so the do get B's on occasion. I mean Honors Calc is a hard class for a sophomore for sure. We have money saved up for them but not a half a million dollars for fuck's sake...

If they join the military and serve their country for a couple years, they can learn a lot, get trained out the wazoo, learn about self-discipline and leadership, qualify for the GI bill, and have US Tax payers fund their entire college education. It's not a pretty good deal - it is an awesome opportunity. Plus they get to serve their nation along the way and they won't have any student debt.

Support Your Nation Wrote:
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> If they join the military and serve their country
> for a couple years, they can learn a lot, get
> trained out the wazoo, learn about self-discipline
> and leadership, qualify for the GI bill, and have
> US Tax payers fund their entire college education.
> It's not a pretty good deal - it is an awesome
> opportunity. Plus they get to serve their nation
> along the way and they won't have any student
> debt.

Maybe an option for med school but they arent going to be cannon fodder for the shitstain politicians on either side of the isle - Ill leave that for the poor families. We have plenty of combat heros in our family I have no intention of ever sending my kids into combat in the middle east. Nobel but absurdly stupid to be enlisted grunt.

I think OP is probably giving her kids too much credit. If you have to come to Fairfax Underground to brag about your brat kids, chances are high that your kids are as stupid and worthless as you are. This site is for fun stuff, not for you to tell us about your mixed breed children.

peep Wrote:
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> I think OP is probably giving her kids too much
> credit. If you have to come to Fairfax Underground
> to brag about your brat kids, chances are high
> that your kids are as stupid and worthless as you
> are. This site is for fun stuff, not for you to
> tell us about your mixed breed children.

So.. And what about your criminal history of arrests ???? Well.. TJ...

peep Wrote:
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> I think OP is probably giving her kids too much
> credit. If you have to come to Fairfax Underground
> to brag about your brat kids, chances are high
> that your kids are as stupid and worthless as you
> are. This site is for fun stuff, not for you to
> tell us about your mixed breed children.


That's all he's doing.

TYpical dickhead libtard from Fairfax thinking his kids are too uppity to serve the country. One will marry a ghetto nigger named Lysol and the other will be a meth addict - happens to all the libtard kids after such a fucked up childhood.

You obviously have no clue about the military but the first thing you need to get through your skull is once over the age of 18 your kids should be capable of making their own decisions. Didn't you raise them to make their own decisions?

If your kids are as smart and capable as you claim they are, they should have no problem getting in to the Air Force Academy, Naval Academy, or a Full ROTC scholarship, then going on to grad school all totally free. Upon graduation and commissioning they can get any number of fellowships, advanced study programs, or work in research or a career such as space or cyber which has little or no overseas travel let alone any combat. The military will pay for law school, medical school, and doctoral degrees along the way.

If your kids are girls and halfway decent looking they can always find a way to pay for college
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peep Wrote:
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> I think OP is probably giving her kids too much
> credit. If you have to come to Fairfax Underground
> to brag about your brat kids, chances are high
> that your kids are as stupid and worthless as you
> are. This site is for fun stuff, not for you to
> tell us about your mixed breed children.

No one is bragging. I can see from your perspective that someone having bright kids seems like something you will never have thus a form of bragging. I get that. Based on your personal issues I would advise you undergo extensive therapy and treatment prior to getting married or having children. Friendly advise.

Their performance is a factor in determining scholarship outcomes so I included it in the hopes others with bright kids could share their experiences.

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> Their performance is a factor in determining
> scholarship outcomes so I included it in the hopes
> others with bright kids could share their
> experiences.


It's clear from your posts that the kids are not the problem here.

Chantilly Chick Wrote:
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> peep Wrote:
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> > I think OP is probably giving her kids too much
> > credit. If you have to come to Fairfax
> Underground
> > to brag about your brat kids, chances are high
> > that your kids are as stupid and worthless as
> you
> > are. This site is for fun stuff, not for you to
> > tell us about your mixed breed children.
>
>
> That's all he's doing.
>
> TYpical dickhead libtard from Fairfax thinking his
> kids are too uppity to serve the country. One
> will marry a ghetto nigger named Lysol and the
> other will be a meth addict - happens to all the
> libtard kids after such a fucked up childhood.

I dont know whether my kids will serve or not but I actively discourage them entering the military at all. You sound pretty disturbed - how was your childhood friend?

libtards unite Wrote:
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> quick point Wrote:
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> > Their performance is a factor in determining
> > scholarship outcomes so I included it in the
> hopes
> > others with bright kids could share their
> > experiences.
>
>
> It's clear from your posts that the kids are not
> the problem here.

Who said anything about it being a problem - its an asset. As I said they are excellent students and gifted test takers. Where did you surmise this was a problem?

kid was up till 1130pm doing homework then woke up at 550am this morning to finish her calculus. She is at school till 530pm every day with extra curricular activities. These kids work hard as hell. College will be a vacation.

Unless she's really ugly she should be able to pay for school
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Support Your Nation Wrote:
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> If they join the military and serve their country
> for a couple years, they can learn a lot, get
> trained out the wazoo, learn about self-discipline
> and leadership, qualify for the GI bill, and have
> US Tax payers fund their entire college education.
> It's not a pretty good deal - it is an awesome
> opportunity. Plus they get to serve their nation
> along the way and they won't have any student
> debt.


Joining the military isn’t the opportunity it used to be. Unless you’ve got connections it’s more likely you’ll end up unemployed, with ptsd, dead or all of the above 10 years out. Military people get treated like shit by the government, employers and the general public unless they’ve gone to a service academy.

Not everyone should go to college. I went to a FCPS getting into college lecture last night and they basically said of the 1500 colleges only a few hundred are very selective (25% or less admission);half or more have acceptance rates over 50% - everyone gets in. My kid hates the idea of paying $$$ or us paying it for him. Both he and my daughter score in the top 1% of standardized test, always have. The get good grades too.

So what? I agree that alone doesnt make them good people or special. The question is should they go to trade school or find a free ride somewhere? Im guessing B colleges will offer them full rides based on academics but again so what? Would they be happier in a trade - if so Ill encourage them to go to a trade school. Being smart doesnt mean being happy.

Be interesting to see what happens.

Scoring in the top 1% on standardized tests and getting good grades are not enough to get a kid a free ride, even at most B List schools. If a kid is willing to shop around he can find schools that might offer reduced tuition based on academic performance alone. The net effect of that reduced tuition can make private and out of state schools competitive with Virginia in state rates. To do much better than that a kid either needs to be willing to move far down his list, or have something else going for him.

Get realistic is right. Unless one belongs to an under-represented minority group - and people who fit in that category and have top 1% on standardized tests are incredibly rare - one will have a very challenging time getting a so-called free ride.

The price of college is a travesty. The system is fueled by the availability of federally backed student loans, so the colleges feel free to ever escalate costs well beyond inflation to benefit those in the academic industrial class. What I find ironic is that those in this class virtually vote one way - and yet they maintain that they are somehow acting in the interests of middle and lower middle class people. Actually, they are the beneficiaries of a grossly inefficient system which benefits them.

My graduate professional school charged 13k a year in tuition in the mid-80's - overpriced then. If the school merely kept pace with inflation - and mind you the education is of the exact same quality as it was in the 80's - maybe even less now that they have relaxed the rigor over what it used to be - tuition should be around 23k a year. What is it now? 45k (tuition alone). The massive tuition pays for the rent seekers/entitled elitist professors and administrators - again, who all vote one way. I say this not to make this into a political argument, but if you ask one of the these elitists if they are benefiting from a system that exploits people of modest means, they absolutely won't get it.

I have become a huge fan of community colleges. Yes, it is difficult in a sense in that you have to navigate through the school to obtain challenging classes and people with the right competitive and preparedness mindset so as to succeed after transfer to a university. But it is such a better value than so many other options.

Meet us at the WH Wrote:
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> So my understanding is the 'quoted' rate is pretty
> much a bogus retail number and that most students
> pay half of the quoted amount (of tuition at
> least). We have a family income of over $160k so
> I doubt we will get any need based relief.

You can make that statement with private schools, but not at most public universities. It's called tuition discounting.

If you want to save money and get the same UVa, GMU etc degree, look at the guaranteed articulation agreements (GAA) at the community colleges. Two years at NVCC, another two at UVa and boom, same degree as some kid with loans out the whazooo.