confused Wrote:
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> Am I the only one who remembers that Geronimo has
> done nothing but fail since he walked away from
> JFK? Every gig he's had after leaving, he's been
> fired from, he went to Sactown and was given
> nearly every time slot on that station, and he was
> fired from ALL of them, he was then foisted on JFK
> again, and they clearly wanted absolutely NOTHING
> to do with him. So now he's doing a podcast,
> something he looked down on just months ago,
> ssoooo because no radio station in the country
> wants his tired schtick, he dedcides podcasting
> isn't all that bad after all?? Fuck him sideways,
> if he had a shred of diginity he would quietly go
> so we can all go about our lives and forget he
> ever existed. And Buzz is clearly so desperate to
> stick a thumb in the LFF's eye that he would
> associate himself with a guy who went out of his
> way to badmouth him...pathetic...all those losers
> deserve each other, while I'm at it, fuck Robbb's
> worthless ass too


You also have to think about why Don lost all those jobs, it was because he wouldn't do the kind of show that the PD's and stations wanted, it was conflicts over content. His show in Sacramento, I listened some, was pretty good and it did well in each slot, according to the ratings. You also bring up the bad mouthing by Don, can you tell me where to find this? As for the rest of your post, I'm going to listen and see if he can do it his way and succeed.



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343...Semper Fat



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peekza Wrote:
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> Ermagerd Drted Rfrnce Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike doesn't interview...he counts on the
> > interviewee to do all of the heavy lifting.
> >
> > If Mike asks "How are you?" and they don't then
> > run on for 45 minutes he says they are a bad
> > guest.
>
>
> Mike leaves the heavy lifting up to everybody else


More like Mike's idea of heavy lifting is walking. Getting those massive slabs of meat going in an up and down motion is taxing. Not to mention the front load he has to balance.

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I might like TMOS more if I didn't think I'd become a TMOS fan.

Curious Bob Hope Wrote:
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> peekza Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ermagerd Drted Rfrnce Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Mike doesn't interview...he counts on the
> > > interviewee to do all of the heavy lifting.
> > >
> > > If Mike asks "How are you?" and they don't
> then
> > > run on for 45 minutes he says they are a bad
> > > guest.
> >
> >
> > Mike leaves the heavy lifting up to everybody
> else
>
>
> More like Mike's idea of heavy lifting is walking.
> Getting those massive slabs of meat going in an up
> and down motion is taxing. Not to mention the
> front load he has to balance.

Damn genetics!

What happened to the CultClub updates?

They've gotten pretty repetitive with the TMOS is right to give us content "free" and Don is wrong because he wants people to pay crap. if anything new pops up I'll let you know. In the meantime, it is the most commented on post on that page, going back quite a while.
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So all it took was Don for the TMOS fan club to become active.

confused Wrote:
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> Am I the only one who remembers that Geronimo has
> done nothing but fail since he walked away from
> JFK? Every gig he's had after leaving, he's been
> fired from, he went to Sactown and was given
> nearly every time slot on that station, and he was
> fired from ALL of them, he was then foisted on JFK
> again, and they clearly wanted absolutely NOTHING
> to do with him. So now he's doing a podcast,
> something he looked down on just months ago,
> ssoooo because no radio station in the country
> wants his tired schtick, he dedcides podcasting
> isn't all that bad after all?? Fuck him sideways,
> if he had a shred of diginity he would quietly go
> so we can all go about our lives and forget he
> ever existed. And Buzz is clearly so desperate to
> stick a thumb in the LFF's eye that he would
> associate himself with a guy who went out of his
> way to badmouth him...pathetic...all those losers
> deserve each other, while I'm at it, fuck Robbb's
> worthless ass too

Well said. Agreed.

Just his 2 cents that I agree with.

Also, someone over at the DCRTV mailbag is pretty excited that they know Don's real name isn't Don Geronimo.
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You say Don moving from timeslot to timeslot is proof that he failed. I say the he failed BECAUSE he was moved from timeslot to timeslot. See how that works?

Every single time Don got on a roll, they fired a bunch of his co-hosts, replaced them and moved his time. It was almost like someone there was actively trying to make him fail and by the cryptic messages Don has posted, that's not far from the truth.

The JFK thing was a disaster. I don't know what either side was thinking there. I'm assuming CK just wanted to hear Don's voice on the station again, even if it were just for a couple months. Everyone knew that he wasn't going to be there for more than that. Strange decision on that one.

The latest TMOS Fan Club advice. My only question is: Why not do this directly with Don instead of on the closed TMOS Fan Club page that Don isn't a member of?
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WHY SO CONCERNED ABOUT A PODCAST THAT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T COMPETITION to YOUR MIGHTY FREE FAILCAST?

IF DON CAN MAKE MONEY, OR CAN'T. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU WASTE TIME TALING ABOUT IT ON BELOVED LEADER'S "FAN PAGE"?

BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. MANY FOLKS WILL SAMPLE AND BUY DON'S SHOW. AND MANY MORE WON'T. BUT YOU NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND START TO WORRY ABOUT

HOW

BAD

YOUR

'FREE'

PODCAST

SUCKS

MONKEY

ASS

Seems to me LFF and his fans feel pretty threatened by Donnie G. Why shouldn't Donnie G charge? Chronic is underwriting the thing and Don is set financially if it flops. It's not like he's selling his house and moving to Florida because he can't afford the cost of living or anything. With cheapass fans like the Failcast has, no wonder Mike is one step ahead of financial ruin.

hey MOMS fan club... Wrote:
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> WHY SO CONCERNED ABOUT A PODCAST THAT OBVIOUSLY
> ISN'T COMPETITION to YOUR MIGHTY FREE FAILCAST?
>
> IF DON CAN MAKE MONEY, OR CAN'T. WHY THE FUCK DO
> YOU WASTE TIME TALING ABOUT IT ON BELOVED LEADER'S
> "FAN PAGE"?
>
> BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. MANY FOLKS WILL SAMPLE
> AND BUY DON'S SHOW. AND MANY MORE WON'T. BUT YOU
> NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND START TO WORRY
> ABOUT
>
> HOW
>
> BAD
>
> YOUR
>
> 'FREE'
>
> PODCAST
>
> SUCKS
>
> MONKEY
>
> ASS

We get it, now please release the cap lock.

Just my 2 cents.

LOLscar Wrote:
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> You say Don moving from timeslot to timeslot is
> proof that he failed. I say the he failed BECAUSE
> he was moved from timeslot to timeslot. See how
> that works?
>
> Every single time Don got on a roll, they fired a
> bunch of his co-hosts, replaced them and moved his
> time. It was almost like someone there was
> actively trying to make him fail and by the
> cryptic messages Don has posted, that's not far
> from the truth.
>
> The JFK thing was a disaster. I don't know what
> either side was thinking there. I'm assuming CK
> just wanted to hear Don's voice on the station
> again, even if it were just for a couple months.
> Everyone knew that he wasn't going to be there for
> more than that. Strange decision on that one.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me.

Just my 2 cents.

I haven't seen anywhere that says it's going to be a live video stream, this and the lack of timeliness from TMOS is a lot of the reason they don't have much of a live audience. Businesses block a lot of video sites. Unlike Ustream video, streaming audio is available from the phone in your pocket without having to keep the screen on which makes the show available everywhere live, so I think Don's live audience will be quite a bit larger than Mike's.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> hey MOMS fan club... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHY SO CONCERNED ABOUT A PODCAST THAT OBVIOUSLY
> > ISN'T COMPETITION to YOUR MIGHTY FREE FAILCAST?
> >
> > IF DON CAN MAKE MONEY, OR CAN'T. WHY THE FUCK
> DO
> > YOU WASTE TIME TALING ABOUT IT ON BELOVED
> LEADER'S
> > "FAN PAGE"?
> >
> > BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. MANY FOLKS WILL
> SAMPLE
> > AND BUY DON'S SHOW. AND MANY MORE WON'T. BUT
> YOU
> > NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND START TO
> WORRY
> > ABOUT
> >
> > HOW
> >
> > BAD
> >
> > YOUR
> >
> > 'FREE'
> >
> > PODCAST
> >
> > SUCKS
> >
> > MONKEY
> >
> > ASS
>
> We get it, now please release the cap lock.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

He's probably not a Fan Clubber, so he's locked out and has to shout for them to hear him.

Editing because I'm and idiot and should not have posted before discovering my mistake.

Nothing to see move along.



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I still don't think going the pay only route along with RELM is a good idea.

Tom Lickus did that and he is not relevant.

There should always be a free show offered. I already pay for SiriusXM, Netflix, and Pandora. So I won't pay for any podcasts when so many free options are available.

Just my 2 cents.

DR Trimmer power tools parent company was Marcus Certa's employer. He, Marcus Certa, host of O'Mearacast, talked his bosses into buying a schedule on the TMOS podcast. The schedule ran, no listeners bought any DR Trimmers or any other heavy machinery because... well because why the hell would someone buy a piece of heavy machinery equipment from an ad off of a supposed-comedy podcast... and so when the ad schedule ended they didn't renew.

The company was tricked into buying ad time on a platform that isn't relevant to their market demographic by one of their employees because he is a fan of said platform. It was a typical "small business" rookie mistake. But certainly not some greater conspiracy against Robb or how Mike/Buzz read the ads. Just a really stupid mistake from the "ad department" (aka Marcus Certa).

peekza Wrote:
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> Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is so funny that TMOS got into trouble
> because
> > of their ads. I wonder what it was, because
> > they've been on script lately I thought.
>
>
> Undoubtedly it was some of Robb's
> interruptions...He's why they lost the DR trimmer
> account

Please remember that some of Don's timeslot moves at KHTK were because of his success.

Leykis' show is free, and streamed 24/7 on his site. Only have to subscribe for downloading the archive, which is ridiculous considering that he does three or four hours of new content a day.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> I still don't think going the pay only route along
> with RELM is a good idea.
>
> Tom Lickus did that and he is not relevant.
>
> There should always be a free show offered. I
> already pay for SiriusXM, Netflix, and Pandora.
> So I won't pay for any podcasts when so many free
> options are available.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

The analysis and commentary on the DGS'14 situation by the rubes on the TMOS fan club page makes my head hurt.

Mike has offered a free podcast for years and he is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly has 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k a year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's six figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don will be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's doing them a favor by even appearing on this thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot. That's why Mike gives something away while being unable to keep his house while Don doesn't.

Here's the problem. TMOS forgot one thing.

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Free Mike! Wrote:
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> Mike has offered a free podcast for years and he
> is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly has
> 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k a
> year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's six
> figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don will
> be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's
> doing them a favor by even appearing on this
> thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot. That's why
> Mike gives something away while being unable to
> keep his house while Don doesn't.

Are you Mike's accountant? Funny how people think they know what's going on. LOL

Just my 2 cents.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> Free Mike! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike has offered a free podcast for years and
> he
> > is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly
> has
> > 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k a
> > year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's six
> > figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don
> will
> > be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's
> > doing them a favor by even appearing on this
> > thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot. That's
> why
> > Mike gives something away while being unable to
> > keep his house while Don doesn't.
>
> Are you Mike's accountant? Funny how people think
> they know what's going on. LOL
>
> Just my 2 cents.

Don't need to be Mike's accountant, all you need is a modicum of common sense (something you've already shown you don't have). Mike has SAID on air what he makes a year. Sure, he could be downplaying how much he makes, but then why is he selling his house? You can try to spin it any way you want, but it's fairly obvious that Mike isn't doing well financially right now.

Also, what are your thoughts on what Peekza said?

"It is worth noting that Don's failures are far more impressive than Mike's accomplishments...So there IS that..."

You have been ragging on Don pretty hard but his last 5 years in and ON radio has been something Mike would kill for.

LOLscar Wrote:
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> Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Free Mike! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Mike has offered a free podcast for years and
> > he
> > > is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly
> > has
> > > 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k
> a
> > > year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's
> six
> > > figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don
> > will
> > > be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's
> > > doing them a favor by even appearing on this
> > > thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot.
> That's
> > why
> > > Mike gives something away while being unable
> to
> > > keep his house while Don doesn't.
> >
> > Are you Mike's accountant? Funny how people
> think
> > they know what's going on. LOL
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
>
> Don't need to be Mike's accountant, all you need
> is a modicum of common sense (something you've
> already shown you don't have). Mike has SAID on
> air what he makes a year. Sure, he could be
> downplaying how much he makes, but then why is he
> selling his house? You can try to spin it any way
> you want, but it's fairly obvious that Mike isn't
> doing well financially right now.

I hope you don't really believe everything you hear on the air. Have you ever thought maybe he wants to live where he always has a home and will pay zero state income tax. Why pay 2 mortgages when you don't have to? I mean really Mike can do the podcast anywhere. Anyone can do podcasts remotely.

Just my 2 cents.

LOLscar Wrote:
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> Also, what are your thoughts on what Peekza said?
>
> "It is worth noting that Don's failures are far
> more impressive than Mike's accomplishments...So
> there IS that..."
>
> You have been ragging on Don pretty hard but his
> last 5 years in and ON radio has been something
> Mike would kill for.

What are Mike's accomplishments again?

Free Mike! Wrote:
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> Mike has offered a free podcast for years and he
> is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly has
> 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k a
> year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's six
> figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don will
> be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's
> doing them a favor by even appearing on this
> thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot. That's why
> Mike gives something away while being unable to
> keep his house while Don doesn't.

No state income tax and no more 2 mortgages. That's a smart decision.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree. It's a smart decision. I would do the same thing if I was broke and can't afford to live in the area anymore.

I wonder if LFF can see the irony that if he wasn't such a total dick and didn't alienate Ronick and Buzz, they never start RELM.

If they never start RELM, old Doni G doesn't have a tailor-made network setup to eliminate all his startup hassles. And whatever non-existent relationship Don and LFF have, Don wouldn't be joining MORE in a million years.

So LFF splitting from all the people that built his network (aside from Howling Hyena Oscar) enabled Don to waltz in and start a podcast that is going to be monetized from Day 1. And it's going to do more business than TMOS which has been around for almost 5 years.

If LFF can put down the bottle (of alcohol, not for his baby) long enough to realize it, what a kick in the pants that must be. He inadvertently helped Don make this happen.

Just my 2 cents :)

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> Free Mike! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mike has offered a free podcast for years and
> he
> > is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly
> has
> > 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k a
> > year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's six
> > figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don
> will
> > be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's
> > doing them a favor by even appearing on this
> > thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot. That's
> why
> > Mike gives something away while being unable to
> > keep his house while Don doesn't.
>
> No state income tax and no more 2 mortgages.
> That's a smart decision.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

And Donny opens shop in a tax loving cali...good luck with that.

It's fun to poke the bear with hot button issues sometimes.

exffx Wrote:
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> I agree. It's a smart decision. I would do the
> same thing if I was broke and can't afford to live
> in the area anymore.


I would want to live anywhere other than Northern Virginia, which is why I left the area. Who needs to live somewhere with terrible traffic and over priced real estate.

Just my 2 cents.

California income tax rate will be under 7% assuming its under $254k. And that's before deductions.

State income tax is not going to be a detterent. Especially for someone who's been drawing a steady CBS paycheck.

If Don wanted money he could have gotten a job in the industry. He wants to do the show he wants to do. A career of working has paid off.

donisdumb Wrote:
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> Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Free Mike! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Mike has offered a free podcast for years and
> > he
> > > is in bad shape financially. Mike supposedly
> > has
> > > 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes $40k
> a
> > > year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's
> six
> > > figures a year. And, no, I don't believe Don
> > will
> > > be splitting that with his crew or RELM. He's
> > > doing them a favor by even appearing on this
> > > thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot.
> That's
> > why
> > > Mike gives something away while being unable
> to
> > > keep his house while Don doesn't.
> >
> > No state income tax and no more 2 mortgages.
> > That's a smart decision.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
>
> And Donny opens shop in a tax loving cali...good
> luck with that.


I am thinking the only reason is for the medical weed.

Just my 2 cents.

I just finished listening to MandL(just the part about Don), they gave away a little more information than anyone else. Apparently the network is getting zero income from Don's show subscriptions, and Don is getting a piece of the network income. So for a guy who is financially stable anyway, he did pretty good with that deal. Probably pay Drew and Joe out of his show subscriptions, Buzz might get a little, but they've said he won't be on everyday. So RELM provided the site, money collection ability and whatever else they're doing for him for just whatever boost having Don gives the network in general.



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Acct Wrote:
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> California income tax rate will be under 7%
> assuming its under $254k. And that's before
> deductions.
>
> State income tax is not going to be a detterent.
> Especially for someone who's been drawing a steady
> CBS paycheck.
>
> If Don wanted money he could have gotten a job in
> the industry. He wants to do the show he wants to
> do. A career of working has paid off.


I am sure the Freda life insurance policy did not hurt, plus if he sued the other driver that killed her.

Just my 2 cents.

Commercials will be non-existent except for network cross-promotion. They said me may go to the one at the start, one at the end model sometime later. I think that'll happen pretty quickly.

Here is my 2 cents. Like everyone else here I was a huge D&M fan. I bought TMOS bonus shows until this year. I became disenchanted over the harsh Buzz treatment and the chimp lady stuff sent me over the edge. I requested a bonus show refund for the last half of 2013. I knew they wouldn't give it to me but I wanted to make a point. I will subscribe to Don's show because I know it will be entertaining and I don't mind paying to be entertained. So in essence, I am taking the money I previously spent with O'Meara and will be depositing it into Don's pocket. Simple as that. And I have a feeling I'm not the only one..

Don made over 5 million dollars HUST on his last 3 year contract with the Don and Mike show. That's public knowledge. You can't really be this dumb, right? You are trying so hard to skew things against Don but you're way too stupid to do it. The FACT is that Don made multi-millions on during the show, didn't spend it on failed Bars and 100 dollar slot-machines, and is currently in a much better position than O'Meara. I don't understand why you are so blind to this

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> Acct Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > California income tax rate will be under 7%
> > assuming its under $254k. And that's before
> > deductions.
> >
> > State income tax is not going to be a
> detterent.
> > Especially for someone who's been drawing a
> steady
> > CBS paycheck.
> >
> > If Don wanted money he could have gotten a job
> in
> > the industry. He wants to do the show he wants
> to
> > do. A career of working has paid off.
>
>
> I am sure the Freda life insurance policy did not
> hurt, plus if he sued the other driver that
> killed her.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

No, he did not sue the other driver WHO killed her. Keep trying. You'll manage a post free of grammatical errors some day. We're all looking forward to it.

Just my 4 cents.



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Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> LOLscar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Free Mike! Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Mike has offered a free podcast for years
> and
> > > he
> > > > is in bad shape financially. Mike
> supposedly
> > > has
> > > > 15,000 downloads a day, yet barely makes
> $40k
> > a
> > > > year. If Don gets 1,000 subscribers, that's
> > six
> > > > figures a year. And, no, I don't believe
> Don
> > > will
> > > > be splitting that with his crew or RELM.
> He's
> > > > doing them a favor by even appearing on
> this
> > > > thing. Don is shrewd. Mike is an idiot.
> > That's
> > > why
> > > > Mike gives something away while being
> unable
> > to
> > > > keep his house while Don doesn't.
> > >
> > > Are you Mike's accountant? Funny how people
> > think
> > > they know what's going on. LOL
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Don't need to be Mike's accountant, all you
> need
> > is a modicum of common sense (something you've
> > already shown you don't have). Mike has SAID on
> > air what he makes a year. Sure, he could be
> > downplaying how much he makes, but then why is
> he
> > selling his house? You can try to spin it any
> way
> > you want, but it's fairly obvious that Mike
> isn't
> > doing well financially right now.
>
> I hope you don't really believe everything you
> hear on the air. Have you ever thought maybe he
> wants to live where he always has a home and will
> pay zero state income tax. Why pay 2 mortgages
> when you don't have to? I mean really Mike can do
> the podcast anywhere. Anyone can do podcasts
> remotely.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

If you had any reading comprehension, you would've realized that I said that Mike may not be telling the truth about his money situation with the show. However, Mike has always lived a life of excess and would never, in a million years, sell a house if he didn't need to. You're talking about a guy that drops 1000 dollars on a single pull of a slot-machine arm. A guy that spent 500,000 on a bar so he had a place to get shit-faced every night. And now he's a guy that steals money from the show to buy a snow-blower because he can't afford it.

You can be a fan of Mike and think he's the most talented person on the planet. But stop trying to convince yourself and others that he's doing well right now.

He's a real estate mogul. Moving to a 1700 sq ft 2 bedroom house on a postage stamp-sized lot cheek by jowl to neighbors. Moving on up.

Oscar being taught about Twitter by Chad.
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Yeah. It`s Mike choice to move to FL.
Paying less taxes always trumps being close to your teenage daughters.

Good part from today's show, Mike drove by his old bar, which he never does, and was sad.

Bad part, extra laugh track, because there was a woman there.

LOLscar Wrote:
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> Don made over 5 million dollars HUST on his last 3
> year contract with the Don and Mike show. That's
> public knowledge. You can't really be this dumb,
> right? You are trying so hard to skew things
> against Don but you're way too stupid to do it.
> The FACT is that Don made multi-millions on during
> the show, didn't spend it on failed Bars and 100
> dollar slot-machines, and is currently in a much
> better position than O'Meara. I don't understand
> why you are so blind to this

What gets me is that NO ONE except Don and Mike themselves or their accountants have any idea what they have. You are speculating. Their contracts were not public if they were it was what they told us on radio. So stop pretending you know.

Just my 2 cents.



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exffx Wrote:
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> Yeah. It`s Mike choice to move to FL.
> Paying less taxes always trumps being close to
> your teenage daughters.

Maybe younger daughter will be going to Florida Gulf Coast University right down the street. Yeah, that's it.

exffx Wrote:
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> Yeah. It`s Mike choice to move to FL.
> Paying less taxes always trumps being close to
> your teenage daughters.


One's in college and the other a senior next year in high school. Your point is what? With the divorce rate the way it is there are many of divorced families that are not in the same area. Maybe financially and emotionally it's best for him. I don't judge. He's a grown man and pays child support, so he can live wherever he chooses. Life happens.

Just my 2 cents.

What gets me is the constant assault on Mike's family, finances, etc. I can understand complaints about content of his show, but the venom spewed on here is crazy.

I guess the people on here are taking out the frustrations in their own lives and placing them onto Mike, Robb, and Oscar. I guess this is their therapy.

Just my 2 cents.

No one assaults Mike's family and finances more than Mike himself.

These are heady days.

Prodigal Don returns to stick thumb in Mike's eye in league with everyone else Mike used to work with. It's like a hate Mike club. Driven men.

Meanwhile Mike vamooses to Gatorville. The timing is a bit pat and raises my suspicions, it's like Don came back and Mike says fk this I'm gone.

Wonder if they'll ever meet, fight ensues Mike slips on a porkchop and breaks his knee while Don leaps and falls on his own face.

Were my eyes playing tricks on me, or did I see Don sent Mike a one-word Facebook message after the #dononrelm announcement: "Zang!"

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Good part from today's show, Mike drove by his old
> bar, which he never does, and was sad.


Yeah that was good. He also that the the parking lot was "packed" and the "new townhouse development that we waited years for is already up and built". "Now that I don't own it anymore all the luck has come their way". He then proclaimed that he "never looks back" and "this was the first time I had done it" (driven by). Sure it was. I have a pretty good idea that Mike has made multiple trips by that bar trying to convince himself that it was bad luck that broke him.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> What gets me is the constant assault on Mike's
> family, finances, etc. I can understand complaints
> about content of his show, but the venom spewed
> on here is crazy.
>
> I guess the people on here are taking out the
> frustrations in their own lives and placing them
> onto Mike, Robb, and Oscar. I guess this is their
> therapy.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

Again, you are doing what every other Mike fanboy does, trying to downplay the validity of comments here by belittling the lives of the posters. I've commented on this before. It is a natural reaction if stupid people that can't look outside of their box. "These people hate something I love. They're stupid heads that live in their parents basements so it doesn't matter". It's just stupid on your part. I'm not angry.

I've got an awesome family, I'm young-ish, my career is going well, I'm a pretty happy person. Most of the main posters on here don't seem all that angry to me either. You are projecting. Go back and read the last few pages. There's a lot of vitriol toward Mike, but I wouldn't classify it as "just angry people". It's people who have good points, and who are frustrated that Mike ruined something they used to love. Seriously, look at the posts here and find me the ones that are "angry". I'd wager the only angry posts are either non-regular posters or people and at you.

By the way, you've been spending a lot of time here and you've been responding within 10 minutes of any post about you for the last week. If I was one if the cult members I would question your life and probably tell you that you live on the internet in your mom's basement. But that would be belittling, right?

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> What gets me is the constant assault on Mike's
> family, finances, etc. I can understand complaints
> about content of his show, but the venom spewed
> on here is crazy.
>
> I guess the people on here are taking out the
> frustrations in their own lives and placing them
> onto Mike, Robb, and Oscar. I guess this is their
> therapy.
>
> Just my 2 cents.


There ARE people here that have personal issues with Mike. More than one person here knows someone that Mike fucked over in his restaurant by promising to pay them and then going back on his word and closing the bar. I'm sure you'll say "oh that's just hearsay" but when multiple people have the same corroborating story, that counts as proof, in court and in life.

And you can claim "hearsay" with that poster that pointed out the 3 year 5 million contract, but that is common knowledge now. Multiple people, including Don and Mike, have commented on this contract. So try to talk in circles around that all you want. Pull the wool over your eyes more. Someone you dislike so much made millions and was smart with it while the person you're a fanboy of gambled it all away, in the casino and in the "business" venture. You call people on here angry but you are the most delusion person that's ever posted here.

By the way, I'm also not an angry person. In more than content with my life. I don't have a personal connection with Mike like some people here. I was just a huge fan of the show and Mike fucking drive it into the ground. I started posting here back when I listened and still held on to my fandom. I enjoyed speaking to people that shared my concerns. I don't listen anymore, but I still read the posts here to get a chuckle.

Money, Money, Money Wrote:
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> Seems to me LFF and his fans feel pretty
> threatened by Donnie G. Why shouldn't Donnie G
> charge? Chronic is underwriting the thing and Don
> is set financially if it flops. It's not like he's
> selling his house and moving to Florida because he
> can't afford the cost of living or anything. With
> cheapass fans like the Failcast has, no wonder
> Mike is one step ahead of financial ruin.


Ding ding ding...How ironic that the guy with the "winning podcast model" is having to short sell his house and downsize to Florida...Damn Don for wanting to actually turn a profit...

exffx Wrote:
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> LOLscar Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Also, what are your thoughts on what Peekza
> said?
> >
> > "It is worth noting that Don's failures are far
> > more impressive than Mike's
> accomplishments...So
> > there IS that..."
> >
> > You have been ragging on Don pretty hard but
> his
> > last 5 years in and ON radio has been something
> > Mike would kill for.
>
> What are Mike's accomplishments again?


It only took him a year to ruin a 25 year+ career in the DC market...Although that might be more Robb's accomplishment...

hey MOMS fan club... Wrote:
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> WHY SO CONCERNED ABOUT A PODCAST THAT OBVIOUSLY
> ISN'T COMPETITION to YOUR MIGHTY FREE FAILCAST?
>
> IF DON CAN MAKE MONEY, OR CAN'T. WHY THE FUCK DO
> YOU WASTE TIME TALING ABOUT IT ON BELOVED LEADER'S
> "FAN PAGE"?
>
> BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. MANY FOLKS WILL SAMPLE
> AND BUY DON'S SHOW. AND MANY MORE WON'T. BUT YOU
> NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND START TO WORRY
> ABOUT
>
> HOW
>
> BAD
>
> YOUR
>
> 'FREE'
>
> PODCAST
>
> SUCKS
>
> MONKEY
>
> ASS


I stand by my comments, and your argument is identical to every TMOS troll who comes on here, just in reverse ... people care because they care, and clearly you care enough to rant near unintelligibly in all caps, and good for you. I'm glad something matters to you, even if you can't understand it.

The conversation took place on the TMOS Fan Page because ... that's where it happened. One guy posted about Don's new show, and no shocker, there are a lot of Don fans who also listen to TMOS. Don't try to draw this false dichotomy, as if people who care about Don somehow aren't allowed to view and respond to posts on the TMOS page.

Your last paragraph and descent into foot-stomping makes even less sense. I subscribed to Don's podcast and I have no idea how you justify your hypocrisy wherein you can froth at the mouth about how people have no right to hold a conversation about shows and personalities they're interested in, while you do the exact same thing anonymously elsewhere about *them.* You say TMOS is "my" free podcast as if I or anyone else on the TMOS forum have anything to do with its production. How little sense does it make to worry about TMOS's entertainment/production value when I'm having a conversation about Don's business model?

Please to explain, substantively, what you disagree with regarding my assertion that a larger audience pool will lead to a greater ultimate number of subscriptions, and that given how small a percentage of the listenership actually calls a show it's critical to have as broad a base as possible (e.g., TMOS's same five callers back-to-back).

Troll harder.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> What gets me is the constant assault on Mike's
> family, finances, etc. I can understand complaints
> about content of his show, but the venom spewed
> on here is crazy.
>
> I guess the people on here are taking out the
> frustrations in their own lives and placing them
> onto Mike, Robb, and Oscar. I guess this is their
> therapy.
>
> Just my 2 cents.


I've never once thrown a suitcase at Mike's pregnant wife...so there's that...just my 2 cents

David M Wrote:
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> hey MOMS fan club... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WHY SO CONCERNED ABOUT A PODCAST THAT OBVIOUSLY
> > ISN'T COMPETITION to YOUR MIGHTY FREE FAILCAST?
> >
> > IF DON CAN MAKE MONEY, OR CAN'T. WHY THE FUCK
> DO
> > YOU WASTE TIME TALING ABOUT IT ON BELOVED
> LEADER'S
> > "FAN PAGE"?
> >
> > BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. MANY FOLKS WILL
> SAMPLE
> > AND BUY DON'S SHOW. AND MANY MORE WON'T. BUT
> YOU
> > NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND START TO
> WORRY
> > ABOUT
> >
> > HOW
> >
> > BAD
> >
> > YOUR
> >
> > 'FREE'
> >
> > PODCAST
> >
> > SUCKS
> >
> > MONKEY
> >
> > ASS
>
>
> I stand by my comments, and your argument is
> identical to every TMOS troll who comes on here,
> just in reverse ... people care because they care,
> and clearly you care enough to rant near
> unintelligibly in all caps, and good for you. I'm
> glad something matters to you, even if you can't
> understand it.
>
> The conversation took place on the TMOS Fan Page
> because ... that's where it happened. One guy
> posted about Don's new show, and no shocker, there
> are a lot of Don fans who also listen to TMOS.
> Don't try to draw this false dichotomy, as if
> people who care about Don somehow aren't allowed
> to view and respond to posts on the TMOS page.
>
> Your last paragraph and descent into foot-stomping
> makes even less sense. I subscribed to Don's
> podcast and I have no idea how you justify your
> hypocrisy wherein you can froth at the mouth about
> how people have no right to hold a conversation
> about shows and personalities they're interested
> in, while you do the exact same thing anonymously
> elsewhere about *them.* You say TMOS is "my" free
> podcast as if I or anyone else on the TMOS forum
> have anything to do with its production. How
> little sense does it make to worry about TMOS's
> entertainment/production value when I'm having a
> conversation about Don's business model?
>
> Please to explain, substantively, what you
> disagree with regarding my assertion that a larger
> audience pool will lead to a greater ultimate
> number of subscriptions, and that given how small
> a percentage of the listenership actually calls a
> show it's critical to have as broad a base as
> possible (e.g., TMOS's same five callers
> back-to-back).
>
> Troll harder.

You missed the joke. It's pretty obviously that poster emulated the style of all the cult members when they come on this site. It was a pretty obvious sarcastic post actually. I think less of you now.

Mom meh Wrote:
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> David M Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hey MOMS fan club... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > WHY SO CONCERNED ABOUT A PODCAST THAT
> OBVIOUSLY
> > > ISN'T COMPETITION to YOUR MIGHTY FREE
> FAILCAST?
> > >
> > > IF DON CAN MAKE MONEY, OR CAN'T. WHY THE FUCK
> > DO
> > > YOU WASTE TIME TALING ABOUT IT ON BELOVED
> > LEADER'S
> > > "FAN PAGE"?
> > >
> > > BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. MANY FOLKS WILL
> > SAMPLE
> > > AND BUY DON'S SHOW. AND MANY MORE WON'T. BUT
> > YOU
> > > NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND START TO
> > WORRY
> > > ABOUT
> > >
> > > HOW
> > >
> > > BAD
> > >
> > > YOUR
> > >
> > > 'FREE'
> > >
> > > PODCAST
> > >
> > > SUCKS
> > >
> > > MONKEY
> > >
> > > ASS
> >
> >
> > I stand by my comments, and your argument is
> > identical to every TMOS troll who comes on
> here,
> > just in reverse ... people care because they
> care,
> > and clearly you care enough to rant near
> > unintelligibly in all caps, and good for you.
> I'm
> > glad something matters to you, even if you
> can't
> > understand it.
> >
> > The conversation took place on the TMOS Fan
> Page
> > because ... that's where it happened. One guy
> > posted about Don's new show, and no shocker,
> there
> > are a lot of Don fans who also listen to TMOS.
> > Don't try to draw this false dichotomy, as if
> > people who care about Don somehow aren't
> allowed
> > to view and respond to posts on the TMOS page.
> >
> > Your last paragraph and descent into
> foot-stomping
> > makes even less sense. I subscribed to Don's
> > podcast and I have no idea how you justify your
> > hypocrisy wherein you can froth at the mouth
> about
> > how people have no right to hold a conversation
> > about shows and personalities they're
> interested
> > in, while you do the exact same thing
> anonymously
> > elsewhere about *them.* You say TMOS is "my"
> free
> > podcast as if I or anyone else on the TMOS
> forum
> > have anything to do with its production. How
> > little sense does it make to worry about TMOS's
> > entertainment/production value when I'm having
> a
> > conversation about Don's business model?
> >
> > Please to explain, substantively, what you
> > disagree with regarding my assertion that a
> larger
> > audience pool will lead to a greater ultimate
> > number of subscriptions, and that given how
> small
> > a percentage of the listenership actually calls
> a
> > show it's critical to have as broad a base as
> > possible (e.g., TMOS's same five callers
> > back-to-back).
> >
> > Troll harder.
>
> You missed the joke. It's pretty obviously that
> poster emulated the style of all the cult members
> when they come on this site. It was a pretty
> obvious sarcastic post actually. I think less of
> you now.

He was either serious, or it was a particularly bad attempt. There were no *wink* *wink* clues in the rant and you're the first person out of four who felt it was a clever play on normal trolls.

Only you and that other guy with 5 different accounts commented on his post. Not sure how that makes me the first person out of four unless you count all of the multiple personalities of that one poster. And at no point did I say it was clever. Please don't put words in my mouth. I said it was obvious sarcasm. Not sure how you tried to spin me saying something is obvious sarcasm into calling it clever. This is a no spin zone here. We aren't passive aggressive, we don't delete posts, and we don't make half-assed attempts at spinning what someone says. Welcome.

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> No one assaults Mike's family and finances more
> than Mike himself.


That's your opinion. Again all you have to go on is what Mike tells as a character over the air or on a podcast. I guess you believe every "bit" he does.

Just my 2 cents.

peekza Wrote:
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> Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What gets me is the constant assault on Mike's
> > family, finances, etc. I can understand
> complaints
> > about content of his show, but the venom
> spewed
> > on here is crazy.
> >
> > I guess the people on here are taking out the
> > frustrations in their own lives and placing
> them
> > onto Mike, Robb, and Oscar. I guess this is
> their
> > therapy.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
>
>
> I've never once thrown a suitcase at Mike's
> pregnant wife...so there's that...just my 2 cents


Again, it's a "bit" on a podcast. I'm sure "everything" Mike says has NO exaggeration to make it or try to make over the top funny.

Just my 2 cents.

Mom meh Wrote:
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> Only you and that other guy with 5 different
> accounts commented on his post. Not sure how that
> makes me the first person out of four unless you
> count all of the multiple personalities of that
> one poster. And at no point did I say it was
> clever. Please don't put words in my mouth. I said
> it was obvious sarcasm. Not sure how you tried to
> spin me saying something is obvious sarcasm into
> calling it clever. This is a no spin zone here. We
> aren't passive aggressive, we don't delete posts,
> and we don't make half-assed attempts at spinning
> what someone says. Welcome.

And from Bill O'Reilly, "Talking Points".

Just my 2 cents.

wow, this whole thing with don on the relm network is pretty damn fascinating. i can't even begin to imagine what's going through mike's head with all this going on. i just don't see how this can be seen as anything but a slap in the face . . . just really interesting stuff!

I can understand why Mike is sad about the bar...the bar Don told him not to buy because it would be a money pit. The bar with all the ridiculous ABC violations like running Happy Hour at all hours of the night and giving away free booze to Mike's friends. The bar that stiffed its employees. The bar Mike expected to throw off enough profit to pay off Mike's underwater 1903 Vic.

Obviously Mike didn't get a degree in business, or common sense, from AU.

wife and i make about 250k a year together...just getting by in fairfax..I wont pay for dons podcast. Simple: I only listen to podcasts in the car, to and from work. A little over an hour is all i need when you throw in the radio/traffic/weather/missing airplane, latest crap breaking news story. I dont need more than one pod cast. I imagine my demo is pretty similar to a lot of fans of whatever show. Why would I pay for a bonus TMOS or dons podcast? Its only for the commute to and from work, and then its just background noise really. And dont fool yourselves...Don's talent level is about the same as mike's. They not ground breakers, they not comedic gold...its just noise to get you thru the commute for most. I dont pay for car cockpit noise.

One thing; that mark and lowell show is more than noise, its finger nails on the blackboard noise, quint from jaws stuff. That show is awful.

One more thing; If Im doing yard work or working around the house I will get a cuouple of hours to binge with, but again, thats free, a corolla or some other guy, and thats maybe twice a month

bobafeet Wrote:
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> wife and i make about 250k a year together...just
> getting by in fairfax..I wont pay for dons
> podcast. Simple: I only listen to podcasts in the
> car, to and from work. A little over an hour is
> all i need when you throw in the
> radio/traffic/weather/missing airplane, latest
> crap breaking news story. I dont need more than
> one pod cast. I imagine my demo is pretty similar
> to a lot of fans of whatever show. Why would I
> pay for a bonus TMOS or dons podcast? Its only
> for the commute to and from work, and then its
> just background noise really. And dont fool
> yourselves...Don's talent level is about the same
> as mike's. They not ground breakers, they not
> comedic gold...its just noise to get you thru the
> commute for most. I dont pay for car cockpit
> noise.
>
> One thing; that mark and lowell show is more than
> noise, its finger nails on the blackboard noise,
> quint from jaws stuff. That show is awful.
>
> One more thing; If Im doing yard work or working
> around the house I will get a cuouple of hours to
> binge with, but again, thats free, a corolla or
> some other guy, and thats maybe twice a month

If you don't think you'll get value out of it, don't buy it. Boom, glad I could make that easy for you.

I listen to talk radio often - I never miss O&A, and I have just enough time to squeeze in another show, which until now has been BOAD. Now it will probably be DonnieG's show, which I know I will enjoy.

I would also venture to say you don't know a thing about Don's demographics.

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I might like TMOS more if I didn't think I'd become a TMOS fan.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No one assaults Mike's family and finances more
> > than Mike himself.
>
>
> That's your opinion. Again all you have to go on
> is what Mike tells as a character over the air or
> on a podcast. I guess you believe every "bit" he
> does.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

Uh, ever hear Carla on the show? Or is she also playing a character doing a bit? "Full Mike" were her exact words, not Mike's or anyone's here. And as for finances, if Mike is playing a character with a working wife, one car, soon-to-be one house, yard sales, gambling habit, etc. etc., then he is really committing to the "bit."

This site is beginning to remind me of the internet. I don't like the arguing, myself. I'm an old Don and Mike fan and all I ever wanted was for them all to entertain me again. I think they have it in them. I have recommended some things that they ought to cut out like laughing at people who have had their faces eaten by monkeys. Not really funny. Or talking about getting drunk constantly. Not really funny.

I just want the funny. Oh, and I won't pay for it. There is too much out there like Carolla that is free. I WILL, however, buy things they sponsor or shop through their show if I like it.

Pretty simple.

If you are a regular MandL listener, you probably got suspicious with the way they said those things. There will DEFINITELY be commercials on the thing. They will be longer than we would care for.

In my view, for a paid show, a very brief mention of a sponsor is already pushing it. "The Don Geronimo Podcast is presented by DR Trimmer" NPR style. Marc loves doing commercials though...big momentum killer for his own show.

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Commercials will be non-existent except for
> network cross-promotion. They said me may go to
> the one at the start, one at the end model
> sometime later. I think that'll happen pretty
> quickly.

Mike's conquered the podcast world. Now, he's setting his sights on the social media world. First goal: for @michaelsomeara to have more twitter followers than Janet Sorce.

bobafeet Wrote:
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> wife and i make about 250k a year together...just
> getting by in fairfax..I wont pay for dons
> podcast. Simple: I only listen to podcasts in the
> car, to and from work. A little over an hour is
> all i need when you throw in the
> radio/traffic/weather/missing airplane, latest
> crap breaking news story. I dont need more than
> one pod cast. I imagine my demo is pretty similar
> to a lot of fans of whatever show. Why would I
> pay for a bonus TMOS or dons podcast? Its only
> for the commute to and from work, and then its
> just background noise really. And dont fool
> yourselves...Don's talent level is about the same
> as mike's. They not ground breakers, they not
> comedic gold...its just noise to get you thru the
> commute for most. I dont pay for car cockpit
> noise.
>
> One thing; that mark and lowell show is more than
> noise, its finger nails on the blackboard noise,
> quint from jaws stuff. That show is awful.
>
> One more thing; If Im doing yard work or working
> around the house I will get a cuouple of hours to
> binge with, but again, thats free, a corolla or
> some other guy, and thats maybe twice a month

Agreed. I do the same. Great points.

Just my 2 cents.

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > No one assaults Mike's family and finances
> more
> > > than Mike himself.
> >
> >
> > That's your opinion. Again all you have to go
> on
> > is what Mike tells as a character over the air
> or
> > on a podcast. I guess you believe every "bit"
> he
> > does.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
>
> Uh, ever hear Carla on the show? Or is she also
> playing a character doing a bit? "Full Mike" were
> her exact words, not Mike's or anyone's here. And
> as for finances, if Mike is playing a character
> with a working wife, one car, soon-to-be one
> house, yard sales, gambling habit, etc. etc., then
> he is really committing to the "bit."


Ever hear of over exaggerated. It's to sensationalism at it's finest. Theatre of the mind. All of the talk radio guys do it. They take a small part of reality times 100 for the radio.

Just my 2 cents.

David M Wrote:
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> I stand by my comments, and your argument is
> identical to every TMOS troll who comes on here,
> just in reverse ... people care because they care,
> and clearly you care enough to rant near
> unintelligibly in all caps, and good for you. I'm
> glad something matters to you, even if you can't
> understand it.
>
> The conversation took place on the TMOS Fan Page
> because ... that's where it happened. One guy
> posted about Don's new show, and no shocker, there
> are a lot of Don fans who also listen to TMOS.
> Don't try to draw this false dichotomy, as if
> people who care about Don somehow aren't allowed
> to view and respond to posts on the TMOS page.
>
> Your last paragraph and descent into foot-stomping
> makes even less sense. I subscribed to Don's
> podcast and I have no idea how you justify your
> hypocrisy wherein you can froth at the mouth about
> how people have no right to hold a conversation
> about shows and personalities they're interested
> in, while you do the exact same thing anonymously
> elsewhere about *them.* You say TMOS is "my" free
> podcast as if I or anyone else on the TMOS forum
> have anything to do with its production. How
> little sense does it make to worry about TMOS's
> entertainment/production value when I'm having a
> conversation about Don's business model?
>
> Please to explain, substantively, what you
> disagree with regarding my assertion that a larger
> audience pool will lead to a greater ultimate
> number of subscriptions, and that given how small
> a percentage of the listenership actually calls a
> show it's critical to have as broad a base as
> possible (e.g., TMOS's same five callers
> back-to-back).
>
> Troll harder.

Good Morning David, let me be the first to welcome you.

As some one who responded to a response to the post you are talking about I agree with the above poster who stated this was intended to be a play on how things work at the FB Fan Club, where if you disagree with the Moderators ideas of what is appropriate, you will be banned, the post will be deleted, or you will get yelled at, or some combination of the three.

I'll give you the benefit of assuming that you have just recently decided to find out for yourself just how evil this place is and haven't been here long enough to see the intended comedy, in time you will be able to tell.

The conversation was clearly off topic for the fan club page as demonstrated by multiple deletions of threads having to do with Don on that page with the reason being that it was not about TMOS.

At this point you may be wanting to ask us "Why is this thread allowed to go on if they delete everything that has to do with Don?"(it may still be there or not, I don't know right now) The answer: This thread is an I love Mike and Don is wrong thread, the largest part of the posters think Don is wrong and Mike's "free" model is the only way to podcast.

When you attack somebody's post, please, try to attack what they actually said. Punctuation matters when making a statement. By conveniently moving the quotation marks in the original post you changed the statement. No one ever claimed that you or anyone else does a podcast or controls TMOS, the word your was used in the same way that Mike uses it when telling listeners it's their podcast because it wouldn't happen without them paying for bonus shows and supporting sponsors.
The use of quotes originally was "free", meaning that it is not free. To save you time trying to go back and see what was said about this before, I will tell you my own view. TMOS has between 20 and 30 minutes of ad time per show, quite a bit for an 80 minute podcast, more than any other that I listen to. If you sell something for cash or trade for an item or service it has still been sold, there is no getting around it, a truly "free" podcast has no ads, no promotions, and no shilling for upgraded packages.
So, as you can see the post had less to do with content and was commenting on business models.

Your larger audience idea does have some validity, but relating it to caller problems doesn't. There are very few people that can sit in front of a computer from 9 am to 2 pm to wait for a show to come on so they can call in. Just since the first of this year the show has started as early as 9 and as late as 2, not to mention missed shows and pre-recorded shows, all without prior notification, so how would someone know to call in and when? I usually log into Ustream about 10 am and listen with BT headphones so I can do my other work while waiting, but there are usually only between 30 and 70 live viewers at any time.

So this should answer some of you questions and you should look at the definition of troll before calling someone names, apparently you and the original FB posters were trolling.

Come again.



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enzo Wrote:
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> This site is beginning to remind me of the
> internet. I don't like the arguing, myself. I'm
> an old Don and Mike fan and all I ever wanted was
> for them all to entertain me again. I think they
> have it in them. I have recommended some things
> that they ought to cut out like laughing at people
> who have had their faces eaten by monkeys. Not
> really funny. Or talking about getting drunk
> constantly. Not really funny.
>
> I just want the funny. Oh, and I won't pay for
> it. There is too much out there like Carolla that
> is free. I WILL, however, buy things they sponsor
> or shop through their show if I like it.
>
> Pretty simple.

Totally agree. The constant attacks on the family is as bad as the monkey bit by Robb. Robb is not a second chair. He was better used a little and as a program guy. Oscar is fine. The laugh fest is overwhelming. Don's show was the same way. Kevin or any of his new sidekicks kissed his butt like Robb does. It's great when Oscar pokes Mike. Wish they did that more.

Just my 2 cents.

bubbyman Wrote:
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> David M Wrote:
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> -----
>
> > I stand by my comments, and your argument is
> > identical to every TMOS troll who comes on
> here,
> > just in reverse ... people care because they
> care,
> > and clearly you care enough to rant near
> > unintelligibly in all caps, and good for you.
> I'm
> > glad something matters to you, even if you
> can't
> > understand it.
> >
> > The conversation took place on the TMOS Fan
> Page
> > because ... that's where it happened. One guy
> > posted about Don's new show, and no shocker,
> there
> > are a lot of Don fans who also listen to TMOS.
> > Don't try to draw this false dichotomy, as if
> > people who care about Don somehow aren't
> allowed
> > to view and respond to posts on the TMOS page.
> >
> > Your last paragraph and descent into
> foot-stomping
> > makes even less sense. I subscribed to Don's
> > podcast and I have no idea how you justify your
> > hypocrisy wherein you can froth at the mouth
> about
> > how people have no right to hold a conversation
> > about shows and personalities they're
> interested
> > in, while you do the exact same thing
> anonymously
> > elsewhere about *them.* You say TMOS is "my"
> free
> > podcast as if I or anyone else on the TMOS
> forum
> > have anything to do with its production. How
> > little sense does it make to worry about TMOS's
> > entertainment/production value when I'm having
> a
> > conversation about Don's business model?
> >
> > Please to explain, substantively, what you
> > disagree with regarding my assertion that a
> larger
> > audience pool will lead to a greater ultimate
> > number of subscriptions, and that given how
> small
> > a percentage of the listenership actually calls
> a
> > show it's critical to have as broad a base as
> > possible (e.g., TMOS's same five callers
> > back-to-back).
> >
> > Troll harder.
>
> Good Morning David, let me be the first to welcome
> you.
>
> As some one who responded to a response to the
> post you are talking about I agree with the above
> poster who stated this was intended to be a play
> on how things work at the FB Fan Club, where if
> you disagree with the Moderators ideas of what is
> appropriate, you will be banned, the post will be
> deleted, or you will get yelled at, or some
> combination of the three.
>
> I'll give you the benefit of assuming that you
> have just recently decided to find out for
> yourself just how evil this place is and haven't
> been here long enough to see the intended comedy,
> in time you will be able to tell.
>
> The conversation was clearly off topic for the fan
> club page as demonstrated by multiple deletions of
> threads having to do with Don on that page with
> the reason being that it was not about TMOS.
>
> At this point you may be wanting to ask us "Why is
> this thread allowed to go on if they delete
> everything that has to do with Don?"(it may still
> be there or not, I don't know right now) The
> answer: This thread is an I love Mike and Don is
> wrong thread, the largest part of the posters
> think Don is wrong and Mike's "free" model is the
> only way to podcast.
>
> When you attack somebody's post, please, try to
> attack what they actually said. Punctuation
> matters when making a statement. By conveniently
> moving the quotation marks in the original post
> you changed the statement. No one ever claimed
> that you or anyone else does a podcast or controls
> TMOS, the word your was used in the same way that
> Mike uses it when telling listeners it's their
> podcast because it wouldn't happen without them
> paying for bonus shows and supporting sponsors.
> The use of quotes originally was "free", meaning
> that it is not free. To save you time trying to go
> back and see what was said about this before, I
> will tell you my own view. TMOS has between 20 and
> 30 minutes of ad time per show, quite a bit for an
> 80 minute podcast, more than any other that I
> listen to. If you sell something for cash or trade
> for an item or service it has still been sold,
> there is no getting around it, a truly "free"
> podcast has no ads, no promotions, and no shilling
> for upgraded packages.
> So, as you can see the post had less to do with
> content and was commenting on business models.
>
> Your larger audience idea does have some validity,
> but relating it to caller problems doesn't. There
> are very few people that can sit in front of a
> computer from 9 am to 2 pm to wait for a show to
> come on so they can call in. Just since the first
> of this year the show has started as early as 9
> and as late as 2, not to mention missed shows and
> pre-recorded shows, all without prior
> notification, so how would someone know to call in
> and when? I usually log into Ustream about 10 am
> and listen with BT headphones so I can do my oth


Well, if you break it down 80 minutes minus 20 minutes for ads. So you get 1 hour of content for "FREE". Do the math all podcasts are set up that way. So your argument is not valid.

Just my 2 cents.

Someone, please remind me to keep it to one paragraph from now on, my fingers hurt.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> Well, if you break it down 80 minutes minus 20
> minutes for ads. So you get 1 hour of content for
> "FREE". Do the math all podcasts are set up that
> way. So your argument is not valid.
>
> Just my 2 cents.

I was trying to inform him about the concept of "free" not whether TMOS is worth it or what other podcasts do.

For the group that is in the TMOS fan club, check out the comments to the HBS pinups. Sheesh.

David, as evidence of the TMOS inability to plan and draw more live viewers please note the following from about 45 minutes before show start time.
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Interesting that when Mike now has a commute, the start time moves to Noon.


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> If you are a regular MandL listener, you probably
> got suspicious with the way they said those
> things. There will DEFINITELY be commercials on
> the thing. They will be longer than we would care
> for.
>
> In my view, for a paid show, a very brief mention
> of a sponsor is already pushing it. "The Don
> Geronimo Podcast is presented by DR Trimmer" NPR
> style. Marc loves doing commercials though...big
> momentum killer for his own show.
>


Just wanted to chime in here. Don has verified via twitter that there will be NO ads, just show.

bubbyman has tried to emphasis this as well. TMOS IS. NOT. FREE. you have to listen to advertising tripe. Don's show will not have this.

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Blobb Spewsack Wrote:
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> Interesting that when Mike now has a commute, the
> start time moves to Noon.
>
When did they announce this before? I know yesterday had a noon start but when it was announced it was as if it was a one-time deal. May have been during the show yesterday, I listened, but was bored and not really paying attention.

Yep, leave it to Mike to put his foot down and not get up any earlier in the day.

It wasn't announced previously, they (oscar, I think) just made it sound as if they had.



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Blobb Spewsack Wrote:
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> It wasn't announced previously, they (oscar, I
> think) just made it sound that way through FB and
> twitter.

That's what I thought to but I wanted to make sure. If we hurry, we can make peekza miss one.

Has LLF acknowledged the Donnie news on the show? Even if through veiled jokes.

They did mention on Thursday's show that once in the new studio that the time would change. It will also allow room for guests. Do you consider radio free? There's ads on there. Also, I listen to O&A daily and they have ads. So, if you think Don will never have ads and can sustain on just pay per listen you are kidding yourselves.

Just my 2 cents.

We won't know if he has anything to say about it until today's show.



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HonkForCash Wrote:
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> Has LLF acknowledged the Donnie news on the show?
> Even if through veiled jokes.


Why would he? Does Pepsi acknowledge Coke?

Just my 2 cents.

Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> HonkForCash Wrote:
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> > Has LLF acknowledged the Donnie news on the
> show?
> > Even if through veiled jokes.
>
>
> Why would he? Does Pepsi acknowledge Coke?
>
> Just my 2 cents.

Yes, actually, they do acknowledge each other in ads.



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Dons BlackBerry Wrote:
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> They did mention on Thursday's show that once in
> the new studio that the time would change. It will
> also allow room for guests. Do you consider radio
> free? There's ads on there. Also, I listen to O&A
> daily and they have ads. So, if you think Don will
> never have ads and can sustain on just pay per
> listen you are kidding yourselves.
>
> Just my 2 cents.


I don't consider radio free, even though they constantly run ads about being free. The main idea is that people slowly get pulled into an idea just by repetition of it and don't even realize it mostly. When someone I know buys a new car and I ask how much it costs, they usually respond with the monthly payment. This is not the cost, it's the payment on the cost. Just like David's mis-use of quotes changes the idea of sentences, advertising is tries to change peoples understanding of words and ideas.

I think eventually Don will have ads, just not the format Mike uses, I'll put up with the aforementioned NPR style while I'm paying a subscription, but that's about it.

Edit for this: I missed it on Thursday, will it change back when Mike gets to Florida?



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Apparently this is lost on some of you derps, so...

Source: https://twitter.com/DonGeronimoShow/status/446004694435909633

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bubbyman Wrote:
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> I don't consider radio free, even though they
> constantly run ads about being free. The main idea
> is that people slowly get pulled into an idea just
> by repetition of it and don't even realize it
> mostly. When someone I know buys a new car and I
> ask how much it costs, they usually respond with
> the monthly payment. This is not the cost, it's
> the payment on the cost. Just like David's mis-use
> of quotes changes the idea of sentences,
> advertising is tries to change peoples
> understanding of words and ideas.
>
> I think eventually Don will have ads, just not the
> format Mike uses, I'll put up with the
> aforementioned NPR style while I'm paying a
> subscription, but that's about it.
>
> Edit for this: I missed it on Thursday, will it
> change back when Mike gets to Florida?


Radio is free.

Let's not get stuck in the semantics.

By your argument, it isn't free because you need to buy something to listen to it on.

As long as there has been media, there have been advertisements. It does not mean that the content isn't free for the listener. If you don't like the commercials, that's fine. But don't get all conceptual about the difference between "liquid" capital and "intellectual" capital.