bubbyman Wrote:
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> Slightly related subject, anyone interested in all
> of RELM's premium content? I'm uploading it to my
> cloud tonight and can post links or if you are a
> DGS sub, there's an easy way to get it.

Thanks for the offer.

Can honestly say I have ZERO interest in anything on RELM now...

Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
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>
>
> I'll be out as well. I can't imagine they won't
> "remedy" this issue shortly, though... Too many
> people complaining about something that is pretty
> much available with every other podcast, radio
> show...


They said they're sending out a mass mail that addresses some issues, maybe this'll be covered, either way he's got 9 months to straighten it out as far as I'm concerned.

So did he finally go see Guardians of the Galaxy?

I want to say he will like it...because it's a really good movie...

But 99% of me is pretty sure he will hate it out of spite.




(Oh and it looks like somebody stole MY login too...even though I was the closest thing to an ally TMOS usually had in here. Oh well.)

Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
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>
>
> Thanks for the offer.
>
> Can honestly say I have ZERO interest in anything
> on RELM now...


Yeah, I just got it because I was aggravating them. I've been downloading it all everyday to up their server costs.

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Slightly related subject, anyone interested in all
> of RELM's premium content? I'm uploading it to my
> cloud tonight and can post links or if you are a
> DGS sub, there's an easy way to get it.


I appreciate your generosity... I can't imagine anybody actually wanting to listen to that crap....M&L are the suck...That's why they had to give it away...

447....Semper Fat...
Attachments:

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Steve (formerly Steve) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > I'll be out as well. I can't imagine they won't
> > "remedy" this issue shortly, though... Too many
> > people complaining about something that is
> pretty
> > much available with every other podcast, radio
> > show...
>
>
> They said they're sending out a mass mail that
> addresses some issues, maybe this'll be covered,
> either way he's got 9 months to straighten it out
> as far as I'm concerned.

let us hope Bubby

Someone upstream from here nailed it. Don just read a text at the end of the show asking if downloads will be available, and he said that yes, today's show would be up soon. I don't think he understands that a stream is not the same as a download, because he has said that the downloads are available at the website more than once. So he will learn soon enough - the question is what he can or what he will do about it..

Wow peekza, that picture has some serious gross tonnage.

Just got my response from Cleeng tech support:
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## Please do not write below this line ##
Your request (#11686) has been updated. Reply to this email or click the link below:
https://support.cleeng.com/hc/requests/11686


The Cleeng Team (Cleeng Community & Support)
Sep 04 18:05

Hi,

Don Geronimo's Show isn't offered for download. You can view the current show live online, and watch the past episodes, also online at http://dongeronimopodcast.com/live-feed-and-archives/

I hope this clarifies.
Best regards,

-Monika
Customer Support & Community Manager


Sep 04 00:57

I am a subscriber to the new Don Geronimo podcast hosted on UStream. I have a Windows 8.1 PC, along with an iPhone 5S and an Ipod Nano 6th gen device. How do I download episodes to use on these devices offline? I don't see a place to download episodes from the DonGeronimoPodcast.com website. Thank you.

This email is a service from Cleeng Community & Support. Delivered by Zendesk.
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I got a response from Cleeng stating that Dons show will be avail for download soon, it is a security issue now.

Mike D1 Wrote:
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> Wow peekza, that picture has some serious gross
> tonnage.


my screen is listing to one side

They posted the e-mail to their website, it only concerns subscription time owed and verifying it. They are having a bad time just getting this part going so I guess it will be a while before they get to the mp3 part. I just keep telling myself that it's now a brand new 3 person operation and they will learn in time.

While I understand the obstacles Don is facing, and I understand that he was conned by Buzz/RELM, but clearly all of this falls under "his problem"...I paid $100 to download a podcast for 13 months and I haven't been provided with downloadable content in a month...I feel like I'm being Ronnicked...

My Don subscription ran out three days before he pulled the plug on the RELM deal. I've never once listened to the show live.

This is a problem of Don's own making. If he doesn't wish to provide a downloadable podcast in a timely fashion (or at all), that's certainly his prerogative. He's gambling that I -- and others like me -- will still be interested when he gets around to doing it. Each day he's away (and it's been a month already), I'm more likely to have moved on to another podcast. Surely he gets this, so maybe his data shows that (paying) downloaders like me are not the bulk of his business.

Robb's Best Friend Wrote:
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> My Don subscription ran out three days before he
> pulled the plug on the RELM deal. I've never once
> listened to the show live.
>
> This is a problem of Don's own making. If he
> doesn't wish to provide a downloadable podcast in
> a timely fashion (or at all), that's certainly his
> prerogative. He's gambling that I -- and others
> like me -- will still be interested when he gets
> around to doing it. Each day he's away (and it's
> been a month already), I'm more likely to have
> moved on to another podcast. Surely he gets this,
> so maybe his data shows that (paying) downloaders
> like me are not the bulk of his business.

nicely stated

Another response from Cleeng. They are saying to just tell Don directly since they are only a payment gateway.. I've already sent an email through Don's website..

The Cleeng Team (Cleeng Community & Support)
Sep 04 19:17

Hi,

I understand how this could be handy, though we're only a payment gateaway. You might need to forward your feedback to Don's directly.
Thank you!
Best regards,

-Monika
Customer Support & Community Manager


Sep 04 18:42

This is a serious problem. This means I can only listen to the Don Geronimo Show at home or while at a WiFi hotspot without using data from my cellphone's data plan, and can't use it at all from my iPod NANO. This will impact lots of other subscribers. Hope something can be worked out.

Ronick KEPT your subscriber money, Don is trying to play catch up. He could have just said I don't have your money, re sign up and subscribe again. I have no problem with this.

I'd stick with Don. Marc, Lowell, and Buzz really screwed Don over. Just wait for Don and Co. to smooth things out. It's already getting funny - Literally.

There's another problem for me with DGS, and I'd like to see if anyone else feels the same.

I signed up for year because I like listening to Don and I was thrilled that he would be bantering with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing the three of them on D&M. So I forked over the cash.

Now, no Buzz or Joe.

If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd learn to live with it, or I'd tune out, but I wouldn't feel cheated or taken. And now I do. First time I've ever felt true resentment towards Don. Subs are very different than enduring ads, aren't they. Of course, another takeaway is to never sign up for a year and expect things to stay the same.

think mike is upset all the posts are about don's show? back to the LFF Talk!

I do think it's interesting that posts like this are now happening. The show is FAR, FAR easier to listen to now. It doesn't drop out, and doesn't have all the technical bullshit it did under relm. RELM is shit, and almost all of their shows are garbage.




Light Bulb Wrote:
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> There's another problem for me with DGS, and I'd
> like to see if anyone else feels the same.
>
> I signed up for year because I like listening to
> Don and I was thrilled that he would be bantering
> with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing the
> three of them on D&M. So I forked over the cash.
>
> Now, no Buzz or Joe.
>
> If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd learn to
> live with it, or I'd tune out, but I wouldn't feel
> cheated or taken. And now I do. First time I've
> ever felt true resentment towards Don. Subs are
> very different than enduring ads, aren't they. Of
> course, another takeaway is to never sign up for a
> year and expect things to stay the same.

My post concerned the participants and personal rapport, not sound quality or tech issues.


Philip Wrote:
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> I do think it's interesting that posts like this
> are now happening. The show is FAR, FAR easier to
> listen to now. It doesn't drop out, and doesn't
> have all the technical bullshit it did under relm.
> RELM is shit, and almost all of their shows are
> garbage.
>
>
>
>
> Light Bulb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There's another problem for me with DGS, and
> I'd
> > like to see if anyone else feels the same.
> >
> > I signed up for year because I like listening
> to
> > Don and I was thrilled that he would be
> bantering
> > with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing the
> > three of them on D&M. So I forked over the
> cash.
> >
> > Now, no Buzz or Joe.
> >
> > If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd learn
> to
> > live with it, or I'd tune out, but I wouldn't
> feel
> > cheated or taken. And now I do. First time
> I've
> > ever felt true resentment towards Don. Subs
> are
> > very different than enduring ads, aren't they.
> Of
> > course, another takeaway is to never sign up for
> a
> > year and expect things to stay the same.

Yes, but those issues you brought up were never really available due to the tech issues. You should just post under your real name, Marc.

Light Bulb Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> My post concerned the participants and personal
> rapport, not sound quality or tech issues.
>
>
> Philip Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I do think it's interesting that posts like
> this
> > are now happening. The show is FAR, FAR easier
> to
> > listen to now. It doesn't drop out, and doesn't
> > have all the technical bullshit it did under
> relm.
> > RELM is shit, and almost all of their shows are
> > garbage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Light Bulb Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > There's another problem for me with DGS, and
> > I'd
> > > like to see if anyone else feels the same.
> > >
> > > I signed up for year because I like listening
> > to
> > > Don and I was thrilled that he would be
> > bantering
> > > with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing
> the
> > > three of them on D&M. So I forked over the
> > cash.
> > >
> > > Now, no Buzz or Joe.
> > >
> > > If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd
> learn
> > to
> > > live with it, or I'd tune out, but I wouldn't
> > feel
> > > cheated or taken. And now I do. First time
> > I've
> > > ever felt true resentment towards Don. Subs
> > are
> > > very different than enduring ads, aren't they.
>
> > Of
> > > course, another takeaway is to never sign up
> for
> > a
> > > year and expect things to stay the same.

Light Bulb Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There's another problem for me with DGS, and I'd
> like to see if anyone else feels the same.
>
> I signed up for year because I like listening to
> Don and I was thrilled that he would be bantering
> with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing the
> three of them on D&M. So I forked over the cash.
>
> Now, no Buzz or Joe.
>
> If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd learn to
> live with it, or I'd tune out, but I wouldn't feel
> cheated or taken. And now I do. First time I've
> ever felt true resentment towards Don. Subs are
> very different than enduring ads, aren't they. Of
> course, another takeaway is to never sign up for a
> year and expect things to stay the same.

When you paid for your TMOS Florida recordings, did you expect Buzz to be on them as well?

Because I have complaints about DGS, I'm Ronick? You must be Don, then.

Great deduction skills there, Sherlock.


Philip Wrote:
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> Yes, but those issues you brought up were never
> really available due to the tech issues. You
> should just post under your real name, Marc.
>
> Light Bulb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My post concerned the participants and personal
> > rapport, not sound quality or tech issues.
> >
> >
> > Philip Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I do think it's interesting that posts like
> > this
> > > are now happening. The show is FAR, FAR
> easier
> > to
> > > listen to now. It doesn't drop out, and
> doesn't
> > > have all the technical bullshit it did under
> > relm.
> > > RELM is shit, and almost all of their shows
> are
> > > garbage.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Light Bulb Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > There's another problem for me with DGS,
> and
> > > I'd
> > > > like to see if anyone else feels the same.
> > > >
> > > > I signed up for year because I like
> listening
> > > to
> > > > Don and I was thrilled that he would be
> > > bantering
> > > > with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing
> > the
> > > > three of them on D&M. So I forked over the
> > > cash.
> > > >
> > > > Now, no Buzz or Joe.
> > > >
> > > > If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd
> > learn
> > > to
> > > > live with it, or I'd tune out, but I
> wouldn't
> > > feel
> > > > cheated or taken. And now I do. First
> time
> > > I've
> > > > ever felt true resentment towards Don.
> Subs
> > > are
> > > > very different than enduring ads, aren't
> they.
> >
> > > Of
> > > > course, another takeaway is to never sign
> up
> > for
> > > a
> > > > year and expect things to stay the same.

Didn't buy 'em.

bubbyman Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Light Bulb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There's another problem for me with DGS, and
> I'd
> > like to see if anyone else feels the same.
> >
> > I signed up for year because I like listening
> to
> > Don and I was thrilled that he would be
> bantering
> > with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved hearing the
> > three of them on D&M. So I forked over the
> cash.
> >
> > Now, no Buzz or Joe.
> >
> > If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd learn
> to
> > live with it, or I'd tune out, but I wouldn't
> feel
> > cheated or taken. And now I do. First time
> I've
> > ever felt true resentment towards Don. Subs
> are
> > very different than enduring ads, aren't they.
> Of
> > course, another takeaway is to never sign up for
> a
> > year and expect things to stay the same.
>
> When you paid for your TMOS Florida recordings,
> did you expect Buzz to be on them as well?

You're the one with the agenda. Looking for reasons to hate on the new endeavor. Doesn't take a leap to realize you have some sort of agenda. and maybe you aren't Marc, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were connected to their shitbag operation.

Light Bulb Wrote:
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> Because I have complaints about DGS, I'm Ronick?
> You must be Don, then.
>
> Great deduction skills there, Sherlock.
>
>
> Philip Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, but those issues you brought up were never
> > really available due to the tech issues. You
> > should just post under your real name, Marc.
> >
> > Light Bulb Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > My post concerned the participants and
> personal
> > > rapport, not sound quality or tech issues.
> > >
> > >
> > > Philip Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I do think it's interesting that posts like
> > > this
> > > > are now happening. The show is FAR, FAR
> > easier
> > > to
> > > > listen to now. It doesn't drop out, and
> > doesn't
> > > > have all the technical bullshit it did
> under
> > > relm.
> > > > RELM is shit, and almost all of their shows
> > are
> > > > garbage.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Light Bulb Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > There's another problem for me with DGS,
> > and
> > > > I'd
> > > > > like to see if anyone else feels the
> same.
> > > > >
> > > > > I signed up for year because I like
> > listening
> > > > to
> > > > > Don and I was thrilled that he would be
> > > > bantering
> > > > > with Buzz and Joe as well. I loved
> hearing
> > > the
> > > > > three of them on D&M. So I forked over
> the
> > > > cash.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, no Buzz or Joe.
> > > > >
> > > > > If this happened on terrestial radio, I'd
> > > learn
> > > > to
> > > > > live with it, or I'd tune out, but I
> > wouldn't
> > > > feel
> > > > > cheated or taken. And now I do. First
> > time
> > > > I've
> > > > > ever felt true resentment towards Don.
> > Subs
> > > > are
> > > > > very different than enduring ads, aren't
> > they.
> > >
> > > > Of
> > > > > course, another takeaway is to never sign
> > up
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > year and expect things to stay the same.

Here's Don's response to the download question. Looks like it will get there.

TMOS FFXU FAQ can be found at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sN0tBBpVJHY95gnVdZ4yyJ0apKKA3I3wRO9yve79xTk/pub
Attachments:

I thought I was Ronick? Stop with the silly "you must be ______" allegations, already.

You do have to wonder whether it's more infuriating for Mike to see people here posting and "hating" about his show....or engaging in an extended, multi-faceted conversation about Marc, Don, and Buzz.

People were talking about how the show was supremely boring all summer. Now, on the number one place to discuss TMOS, TMOS is irrelevant. Maybe they need to move CAT 2015 up.

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Here's Don's response to the download question.
> Looks like it will get there.


Thanks for sharing Bubby....good to know it is in the pipeline...

Another tweet from Don. Sounds like older shows will be provided for subscriber download also..

"Downloads of the show (most recent and archives) will be made available very soon for subscribers. Thank You Again for your patience, gang!
2:53pm - 4 Sep 14"

Mike was gassy, with some possible "fecal urgency" again. This time while being treated by a chiropractor.

I can believe I wrote that. Or listened to this segment.

Shocker...Mike's doctor said his current back injury was "likely" caused by his seated rows(no mention of genetics) and Mike made a comment about learning how to do them right...

seated rows are bad for the barrel chested...ahahahahahaha...

Mike should give up the Seated Row and go back to what he is good at.

The Seated Grow.

50 year olds doing poop humor.

Blobb Spewsack Wrote:
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> Mike should give up the Seated Row and go back to
> what he is good at.
>
> The Seated Grow.


yesssssss

Just Say No Wrote:
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> 50 year olds doing poop humor.


don't take it from him...it's all he's got left...

Blobb Spewsack Wrote:
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> Mike should give up the Seated Row and go back to
> what he is good at.
>
> The Seated Grow.

Ha ha!

I honestly cringed when Robbbbbbb asked about fecal urgency

Who hasn't had a bit of fecal urgency?

Philip Wrote:
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> Who hasn't had a bit of fecal urgency?


It would appear Mike can't venture out in public without a bout of it...I guess that comes with the territory when you weigh 400 pounds errr inherited poor genetics...Seriously, he isn't far from having to wipe himself with a rag on a stick...

Who thinks its funny? Fifth grade boys.

Just Say No Wrote:
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> Who thinks its funny? Fifth grade boys.


I agree, unless we're talking about fart jokes.

Are Marc and loweel discussing the DGS bashing of the relm network? If so id like to hear but im not paying them to hear it.

Well, I promised to provide my finding after looking at Headdddd material. At first I was put-off by all his inside references and autoerotic humor patterns. Now I see that he is one of the greatest 'Jewish' comedians today.

His schtick is purely Jewish. His theme is 'the business of show' - with continual references to the entire 20th/21st history of the biz. The reason he laughs by himself is because few people can track with it. So, he laughs alone. Gilbert Gottfried does the same thing - and I love Gilbert Gottfried. He is putting out one of the best podcasts today. Carl Reiner does it, and did it continually with Norm Macdonald. Anyone who watches and thinks about the entire entertainment buisness and it's history can understand, notice and appreciate what Robb is doing.

This is why he love Jerry. Jerry is the king of the Jews. Or maybe Jackie Mason....It also explains Robb's obsession with Hitler. Robb is simply an old school Catskills comic in a 38 year-old's body.

Carolla is interesting to guys who are 50. Why? Because he constantly references the last 5 decades. But only someone with a real love of the ENTIRE entertainment business is referencing the last 100 years or so. This is why, of course, the KCJJ guy was making fun of Robb and referenceing Superman and Sgt. Bilko. Everyone laughs, but it IS pretty funny that Headd does it so often. It is unique today.

I don't have the many hours a day to listen to and talk about the 'show' as you fellas.....an A8 is not cheap! -- but I did listen to about 20 minutes from the show a couple days ago. Just in that small window there were references to Barnum and Bailey, Shotgun Tom Kelly, hat boxes, hen's teeth, Jerry Lewis, King of Comedy, Gengarry Glen Ross and Motörhead. Sort of amazing, really. And I didn't catch all of it.

Robb is also continually belittling the others around him without their noticing - also very 'Jewish.' Robb does not believe in 'getting his hands dirty' or doing things like changing oil, fixin' things, assembling items, digging, repairing or any other such goyim activity. Need I say again it is all very 'Jewish?'

So why is he hated here so much? He is presenting a very traditional type of Jewish humor. He's channeling an entire century of 'show.' I think it can only be explained by jealousy. I think the majority who hang out at this site wish THEY had a 'show.' Spewak is a comical historian. I can't think of many like him today. There is nothing to hate there. He's the reincarnation of the comics I saw as a kid. Might as well hate Jerry or Jackie or Uncle Miltie.

And one other thing about those 20 minutes I listened to: They entered into a discussion about the football business today - the Haves and Have Nots. They talked about the money-grubbing Iowa University and their new policy to boot the old tailgaters to please the super rich. They mentioned it happening also in the NFL. Now, I'm one of the rich they are talking about - from the Thurston Howell III crowd - but I thought it was very topical. In fact, I predict this will become a very big issue with the public in the next year or two.

So, there is also that: something very very topical. AHEAD of the curve.

I didn't write down all my thoughts. --Just going from memory of a small bit of tape. There was a lot there.

I was mistaken. The show if very good. I ask TMOS for forgiveness.

As for you fellas: "Fuck ya, ya haters."

I will listen with renewed interest. Thank you, Robb, "I get it" now.

Still trollin' after all these years.

Nice comedy bit there, champ. Funniest thing you've written here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

So, I might be over thinking this...

We have a data point from Don. More or less stating that Ronic sucked (didn't pay Joe on time, pocketed $, etc).

I was working under the assumption the Ronic called LFF out on taking show $. What if that wasn't what happened. Maybe Ronic took TMOS $ and LFF called him on it and Buzz stood up for Ronic (divorce, et al).

Maybe the high road is the LFF not telling his audience that somebody that worked for him for years and was the 4th chair is a thief?

Don has proven himself unable to work with (or for) anybody since D&M. He alienated folks in Ocean City, KTHK, the Sac-Town TV station, WJFK (the second time), RELM and even Buzz and Joe. With that track record, maybe the problem isn't everyone else. Maybe it's Don.

jgopkins: "Maybe Ronic took TMOS $ and LFF called him on it and Buzz stood up for Ronic (divorce, et al).

Maybe the high road is the LFF not telling his audience that somebody that worked for him for years and was the 4th chair is a thief?"

I feel like if that was the case, we would have figured it out by now. As much as Mike loves to talk about taking the high road, he still works his bitchy comments in whenever he gets a chance. He can't help himself. He never comes out and just says anything but we can always do the math. If Ronick was ripping them off, we would have heard about it. Mike had a perfect opportunity to not say something about it a few months ago (around the time they moved into the new studio) when Oscar was griping that they had a ton of unsold t-shirts because 'someone' kept ordering an insane number just to get a better price without thinking about whether they would be able to move them all.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2014 08:27PM by Disgruntled OMearican.

jhopkinsffxu Wrote:
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> So, I might be over thinking this...
>
> We have a data point from Don. More or less
> stating that Ronic sucked (didn't pay Joe on time,
> pocketed $, etc).
>
> I was working under the assumption the Ronic
> called LFF out on taking show $. What if that
> wasn't what happened. Maybe Ronic took TMOS $ and
> LFF called him on it and Buzz stood up for Ronic
> (divorce, et al).
>
> Maybe the high road is the LFF not telling his
> audience that somebody that worked for him for
> years and was the 4th chair is a thief?


Buzz quit before Ronnick got fired...Who do you think edited Buzz out of all the iPhone videos they didn't want to pay him for? IRonickally, when Mike conferred with "legal counsel" he hound out about the side deal at Quench that ultimately got him fired

Cary: Ms. Enzo, you may be right about some things about my husband. He is 1/8th Jewish, as you may know. Also explains why during tonight's pre-game, he thought Seattle's fans were chanting "Seig...Heil" and not "Sea...Hawks."

That you love Robb doesn't make my life any better, unfortunately. No other woman has ever expressed any interest in him, so I'm at a loss. If I could meet your husband, however, maybe we might work out an arrangement. Does he like Japan?

jhopkinsffxu Wrote:
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> So, I might be over thinking this...

Nope, per usual, you are under thinking...spare us your deep thoughts, Jhops Handy.

Unhappy Don Wrote:
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> Don has proven himself unable to work with (or
> for) anybody since D&M. He alienated folks in
> Ocean City, KTHK, the Sac-Town TV station, WJFK
> (the second time), RELM and even Buzz and Joe.
> With that track record, maybe the problem isn't
> everyone else. Maybe it's Don.


Since D&M? That's been his entire career! At best, he had a prickly relationship with management, whoever that may be. There's a saying about the common factor in all your bad relationships is you. If that doesn't apply to Don and radio stations I'll eat your hat. It's made for some all time great radio, but I'm glad I'm not the one to try to rein him in.

I don't doubt that there was something... questionable... about whatever was going on at Relm. But I'll never believe for a second that Don was a 100% innocent angel either.

The problem isn't with Robbs sense of humor. It's that Robb isn't funny.

World Famous Tatrz Wrote:
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> The problem isn't with Robbs sense of humor. It's
> that Robb isn't funny.


That's a bingo

World Famous Tatrz Wrote:
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> The problem isn't with Robbs sense of humor. It's
> that Robb isn't funny.

Perfect two sentence rebuttal to enzo's missive.

RELM had several podcast before Don joined. Marc would have had an idea what the cost would be to start up.

If he didn't think 80/20 would have paid RELM's end, he should have known instead of keeping the $$$$ and not honoring Don's share or paying the other people on the show.

Of course I base this from only hearing Don's side. Marc hasn't said anything yet, so I'm going by the assumption that he did take Don's money.



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How can Rob not be funny? He thinks Jerry Lewis is a comedic genius.

The only person who thinks that braying jackass Rob(b) is funny is Rob(b). Oh, wait - apparently, Mike O'Meara thinks he's funny. On the bright side, he's an expert on 50's and 60's television and has an excellent rapport with children and teenagers.

exffx Wrote:
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> RELM had several podcast before Don joined. Marc
> would have had an idea what the cost would be to
> start up.
>
> If he didn't think 80/20 would have paid RELM's
> end, he should have known instead of keeping the
> $$$$ and not honoring Don's share or paying the
> other people on the show.
>
> Of course I base this from only hearing Don's
> side. Marc hasn't said anything yet, so I'm going
> by the assumption that he did take Don's money.


I think RELM's silence tells us all we need to know

We know somebody or everybody did something shady, and damn I wish I knew what.

This is really the whole rub with the Ronick/MORE split...because nobody will be honest about it we can't figure out who was wrong. Prior to these Don allegations, we had no evidence that Ronick was shady. Dumb, lazy, rude, or incompetent...sure. But the embezzlement allegations were completely imagined and made up here and here only. Unless that first embezzlement post was from a MORE member, which is unlikely, and Buzz and RJ *still* decided to team up with a thief.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, the snowblower was Mike's only fiscal misdeeds - everything else was just general jerkiness. Aggressive jerkiness. Petty and counterproductive jealousy. Inability to function in customer service situations. But, to Don's point, not a lot of business attention let along straight up shadiness.

Frankly, as a MandL listener it doesn't surprise me that Marc is funny about money. That show spends so much time on asides about reasonable prices, returning groceries because your wife later decided to go on a diet, coupon strategy, and deals it's ridiculous. And despite Don coming off as super credible, you're a damn fool if you know his history, listened to his epic explanations for KHTK staff and slot changes, and are willing to believe him 100% with no more information.

Of course, I doubt RELM provides that information.

I have a feeling that, just like when Ronick and Buzz abruptly left, we will never get a satisfactory answer. Props to Don for being so open, and if RELM has no non-delusional response I will take his allegations as true.

Exactly. I'll give them a few more days, but that silly Buzz "we are friends and split mutually" craps doesn't bode well.

peekza Wrote:
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> exffx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > RELM had several podcast before Don joined.
> Marc
> > would have had an idea what the cost would be
> to
> > start up.
> >
> > If he didn't think 80/20 would have paid RELM's
> > end, he should have known instead of keeping
> the
> > $$$$ and not honoring Don's share or paying the
> > other people on the show.
> >
> > Of course I base this from only hearing Don's
> > side. Marc hasn't said anything yet, so I'm
> going
> > by the assumption that he did take Don's money.
>
>
> I think RELM's silence tells us all we need to
> know

Anyone surprised that Mike as no idea how back to school night works and how many periods there are in a school day?

Don, Buzz and all of RELM -- good riddance to bad rubbish. Now let's get back to our favorite rubbish -- TMOS. LFF's or Spewak's next endoscopy could kill them, so let's treasure trashing them while we can.

exffx Wrote:
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> Anyone surprised that Mike as no idea how back to
> school night works and how many periods there are
> in a school day?

Neither did his old man -- damn genetics!

The clues are there.

Slow Joe left because he wasn't getting paid. His financial situation was public and we all know he couldn't hold out as long as the other guys.

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> exffx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone surprised that Mike as no idea how back
> to
> > school night works and how many periods there
> are
> > in a school day?
>
> Neither did his old man -- damn genetics!

Mike O'Meara - Champion for the 99%

Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
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> We know somebody or everybody did something shady,
> and damn I wish I knew what.
>
> This is really the whole rub with the Ronick/MORE
> split...because nobody will be honest about it we
> can't figure out who was wrong. Prior to these Don
> allegations, we had no evidence that Ronick was
> shady. Dumb, lazy, rude, or incompetent...sure.
> But the embezzlement allegations were completely
> imagined and made up here and here only. Unless
> that first embezzlement post was from a MORE
> member, which is unlikely, and Buzz and RJ *still*
> decided to team up with a thief.
>
> And, correct me if I'm wrong, the snowblower was
> Mike's only fiscal misdeeds - everything else was
> just general jerkiness. Aggressive jerkiness.
> Petty and counterproductive jealousy. Inability to
> function in customer service situations. But, to
> Don's point, not a lot of business attention let
> along straight up shadiness.
>
> Frankly, as a MandL listener it doesn't surprise
> me that Marc is funny about money. That show
> spends so much time on asides about reasonable
> prices, returning groceries because your wife
> later decided to go on a diet, coupon strategy,
> and deals it's ridiculous. And despite Don coming
> off as super credible, you're a damn fool if you
> know his history, listened to his epic
> explanations for KHTK staff and slot changes, and
> are willing to believe him 100% with no more
> information.
>
> Of course, I doubt RELM provides that
> information.
>
> I have a feeling that, just like when Ronick and
> Buzz abruptly left, we will never get a
> satisfactory answer. Props to Don for being so
> open, and if RELM has no non-delusional response I
> will take his allegations as true.

two things.....One, the whole "Hey Mike, I found this envelope with $1200 worth of T-Shirt money from Reno" months after the fact is shady...and 2, if you don't think Mike used the TMOS coffers to fund a single trip to WVa, you're just being naive...

Intractable Insobriety Wrote:
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> exffx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anyone surprised that Mike as no idea how back
> to
> > school night works and how many periods there
> are
> > in a school day?
>
> Neither did his old man -- damn genetics!


Hell yes

exffx Wrote:
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> The clues are there.
>
> Slow Joe left because he wasn't getting paid. His
> financial situation was public and we all know he
> couldn't hold out as long as the other guys.


Slo Joe ended up being right too...They never gave Don all his money...If they did, they could sue him, but they won't because they didn't...

Can someone suggest enzo's next assignment? The last one kept him pleasantly occupied for quite a while. It was nice.

Regarding this page's photo from peekza, I was unaware that Buzz is a dwarf.

The Laughing Lurker Wrote:
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> Regarding this page's photo from peekza, I was
> unaware that Buzz is a dwarf.


I believe the preferred nomenclature would be gnome
Attachments:

peekza Wrote:
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> The Laughing Lurker Wrote:
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> > Regarding this page's photo from peekza, I was
> > unaware that Buzz is a dwarf.
>
>
> I believe the preferred nomenclature would be
> gnome

Gnomenclature

bubbyman Wrote:
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> Here's Don's response to the download question.
> Looks like it will get there.

Yeah, thanks for passing that along, Bubby.
Kind of how I thought (and hoped) things would turn out...

JO Atnight Wrote:
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> Are Marc and loweel discussing the DGS bashing of
> the relm network? If so id like to hear but im
> not paying them to hear it.

EsteBAN (formerly Steve); now registered...

Doubtful. They've already reduced their MANDL show to one freebie and one pay show per week...
I won't give those wannabes another nickel either...
They are "Fredo". They are dead to me.

Just logged into Donnie's podcasting site.

I don't even see yesterday's show there... Only see the 9/2 and 9/3 show.

They can't get these downloads available fast enough...

In light of all this RELM/DGS shit, shout out to all of those who never have paid any $$ to any of them. Podcast equivalent to slot machines -- but no shame...

I can't justify "pay-per-listen" podcasts. I try to support various guys through Amazon, but I'll be damned if I pay HBO add-on prices for a few hours of dumb MandL camp stories or whatever valueless thing it is that Mike does. At these prices, it's basically a donation.

The only one that makes any sense is the Tom Lekis model, where he streams three or four hours a day for free, but access to the archive and downloads is extra. Just like Howard and O&A lost their cultural influence when they went behind a pay wall, Don and Cumia may as well not exist. Good luck growing your fan base, fellas. Your subscriptions can only go down from here...

Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
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> I can't justify "pay-per-listen" podcasts. I try
> to support various guys through Amazon, but I'll
> be damned if I pay HBO add-on prices for a few
> hours of dumb MandL camp stories or whatever
> valueless thing it is that Mike does. At these
> prices, it's basically a donation.
>
> The only one that makes any sense is the Tom Lekis
> model, where he streams three or four hours a day
> for free, but access to the archive and downloads
> is extra. Just like Howard and O&A lost their
> cultural influence when they went behind a pay
> wall, Don and Cumia may as well not exist. Good
> luck growing your fan base, fellas. Your
> subscriptions can only go down from here...

All of this.

The sheer wealth of free quality podcasts is staggering. I have to cull how many feeds I follow every once in a while because I just don't have time to listen to them all. So many truly funny people putting out great content. Bill Burr, The Crabfeast, Jay Mohr, How Did This Get Made?, Never Not Funny, Doug Benson etc. The thought of having to pay is ludicrous.

I think the lesson here is: You run into an a**hole in the morning, you ran into an a**hole. You run into a**holes all day long, you're the a**hole.

Like that dude on your hall in college who got in a fight every weekend but it was never his fault, he never started it.

Gattaca Wrote:
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> I think the lesson here is: You run into an
> a**hole in the morning, you ran into an a**hole.
> You run into a**holes all day long, you're the
> a**hole.


Are you worried about typing asshole for some reason?

Blobb Spewsack Wrote:
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> Gattaca Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think the lesson here is: You run into an
> > a**hole in the morning, you ran into an
> a**hole.
> > You run into a**holes all day long, you're the
> > a**hole.
>
>
> Are you worried about typing asshole for some
> reason?


Seriously....take a look around guy...Shitfuckdamn

Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
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>
> And, correct me if I'm wrong, the snowblower was
> Mike's only fiscal misdeeds

What about not paying employees? Also if he got caught with one thing like the snowblower - how many things has he gotten away with?

I cringe everytime LFF does the 'My Anaconda don't..' bit.

If he felt justified to take $1000 of the show's money to buy a snowblower, I doubt he stopped there...You know the one-armed vending machine got a little taste too....So that's snowblower/slotmarket/withholding final checks....other than that...no misdeeds...that we KNOW off...For all we know, the boat/trailer might have wet their beak...

HonkForCash Wrote:
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> I cringe everytime LFF does the 'My Anaconda
> don't..' bit.


If only because he botches it

If I didn't properly frame it, I was identifying items that we have some sort of quasi-legitimate confirmation or indication of. That was the whole point of that line of thinking - what do we know or think we know and is it consistent with what people are saying. Not imagining possible misdeeds because I don't like the dude.

There aren't as many legal consoles here as claimed during the jhopkins assassination speculation.

What's the not paying employees thing? Is this using volunteer labor, like the butler RJ, or actual withheld paychecks? I don't remember any discussion here or on the show of the latter.

MikeWillEatAnything Wrote:
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> Fan since 106.7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > And, correct me if I'm wrong, the snowblower
> was
> > Mike's only fiscal misdeeds
>
> What about not paying employees? Also if he got
> caught with one thing like the snowblower - how
> many things has he gotten away with?

when he was in the process of closing his restaurant, he promised employees that he would pay them every cent he owed them...and then failed to pay them again...

and I will state for the record again, if you don't think he gambled with some of it, you're not paying attention

Oh yeah the employees at the restaurant. I was only considering his broadcasting company. I don't know how well established it is (what, some friend of a friend of a waiter posted that here five years ago? and we ran with it?), but I definitely believe it. I'll cop to forgetting this.

If Mike gambled away show funds and Oscar still works with him every day, yeah I guess I am not paying attention. Depending on Virginia law, he would be guilty of a felony if that was true. It doesn't add up logically, but it is not impossible. And regardless of whether one thinks it did or didn't happen - it's still just something that somebody here completely made up lol.

you think Oscar takes Mike's debit card away every time they go to a Casino because he enjoys doing it? and the withheld wages was a real thing as well counselor

But that's the point, it doesn't matter what we THINK, Fan Since 106.7 is charting what is KNOWN (proven).

then you have show funds and withheld wages